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Sense of smell may not have changed. Some people just get used to their own odors and don't notice it. The nonchalant attitude about wiping up is probably not new either. Some people have no consideration for property of others, esp rental stuff (as well as no consideration how much they impose on the good will of others... take take and MORE take!)

Hopefully they will be able to do wife's operation, and she won't "catch" anything there (does it require a stay or can she go home after it is done?) They do need all the healthcare people they can get!

Work from home becoming common here, but that doesn't help everyone. My son was told to work at home for several weeks (but has an ITish job, so will need to go in sometimes), my YB said for a few days as someone who knew someone who might have been "infected" has driven them all out so they can "clean". Daughter can't really work from home - dispatch for emergency services (PD, fire, EMT)...

I am surprised to hear your schools are still open - although it doesn't seem to affect kids as much, they can still be carriers and contribute to the spread! My dentist office (called re bill) is shutting down for 3 weeks or more, so I called mom's eye place (mac degen treatments) about her 4/2 appt (AL is likely shut down anyway), and first words from them was THEY are rescheduling everyone, so that's that.

Now that the TP hoarders have wiped out (haha, no pun intended, but it works!) the supply, they are buying up all the pet supplies (chewy is out of stock for many of my autoship items!) P-A-N-I-C!!! I have enough food for me and the 10 little indians (albeit stuff they didn't really want so it hasn't been used up), just very little TP left and the one main food for my 21 yo is one of the OOS items. :-( She does eat other stuff too, but that's what she eats most of - hopefully they can get more in... soon...
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Sorry your wife is hurting, Paul. The schools here have switched to online classes.
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Well, maybe with Dads sense of smell but surely he knows its not cool what he does?

Yep I work for a government organisation here in the UK. WFH for however long now then. Kids are still in school though.....

Wife feeling guilty. She badly hurt her knee a few weeks ago. Got an op booked next week. She wants to go back to work to help out (shes a nurse) but she can hardly walk at the moment with her knee.
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NHWM- I'm no expert on that subject. I do know in general men's sense of smell is not as good as women's. Also, if you have sinus problem, you can't smell well either, like when you have a cold/flu. I always make fun of my husband's nose because he can't smell much, to which he says: "yeah, but I have a classic Greek nose."
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Paul,

My husband is working from home now due to coronavirus. Not sure how long it will last here. The company decided it was best. Our governor has made several additional changes in our area. Places that stayed open all night are now closing at 9:00. They are limiting the amount of people eating in restaurants and so on, anyone over 60 is being asked to self quarantine.
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Polar,

Do we lose our sense of smell as we age? I guess so. We lose other senses, taste, sight, hearing...

I can smell intensely. I am 64. When does this happen?
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Disgustedtoo,

I grew up with a perfectionist mom so I personally find organized chaos in others refreshing! I am amazed how they truly do know where everything is. It only looks like chaos to others but it is truly organized, right? It takes time sort it all out in transitional periods.

One of my children is like this. She could put her hands on anything and find it as long as no one disturbed anything rearranging. Hey, my kids had great grades. If it’s not broken, don’t fix it!
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Paul- I think your dad probably lost his sense of smell. He definitely doesn't care of others think of his appearance.
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Well, working from home from tomorrow for the foreseeable future it seems......
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NeedHelp - No hes never grateful. I've realised he treats me badly. All I get is "Im old and you've got to look after me".

That's probably the hardest, the way EVERYTHING is an emergency. Got a cold - hes dying. Everyone has to jump.
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"Others are content living in their organized chaos! Hahaha I know people like that. I worked with them. Their desk was a mess, but I swear they knew exactly where it all was. If someone moved anything on their desk it would freak them out."

My place certainly qualifies for organized chaos, but mostly because when I bought it the plan was to refurb what was needed before putting everything away, only to have to take it out again. I lost my job 5 months after purchase and still owned my previous home (a lot of stuff not needed to live here was still there too!) Lack of money had put all the refurb on hold. I was finally able to sell the other place, freeing up funds, then the problem was finding someone to do most of the work needed, someone reliable who does what I want done - I will listen to suggestions and if reasonable, fine. Some work was done, but is not finished. Then along came another money issue along with not having someone to do the work, so with all the stuff moved from the other place, items needed for the refurb and then all the crap my brother brought here from mom's place, ugh!

I will say that yes, I usually had my "piles" of stuff, on my desk at work or at home and so long as no one touched them, including ME, I could locate just about anything! So, it was "organized". Now, add in all the paperwork, etc for mom, yuck. I have to hang on to a lot, just in case she ever runs out of funds for the facility.

I now have some freed up funds, and found someone to start the work needed, so hopefully I can weed out what isn't needed (my original plan included weeding out my own stuff not needed as work was finished and I could organize, but then came all this crap from mom's place - not anything good really, just a lot of leftover stuff that I don't need!)

I would prefer my old "organized" mess! Most items do have a place and is put there, but paperwork often needs to be "handy", so I do have some piles going on. I am hoping to get to where it needs to be this year and start pitching stuff (bought the place 5 years ago, so I am really sick of living in THIS mess!)
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I will, Paul. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. It does seem like some people are not happy unless they have something to complain about. They like complaining. It has become a pattern, their way of life.

We all have some things to complain about but each of us has a lot to be grateful for too. We need to remember the good things in our lives.

I don’t remember you ever saying anything your dad is truly grateful for. He certainly should be grateful to you. You have done a lot for him throughout the years.
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NeedHelp - its weird sometimes. There are things available to help him and make life easier but he just won't bother. Sometimes I think he likes things a bit difficult....

Never have you seen someone so ill at ease with getting older. Growing old gracefully is the complete opposite of Dad.

Like I've always said, pray for me if hes ever got a serious illness.
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Paul,

Your dad certainly has a ‘devil may care’ nonchalant attitude! A ‘no big deal’ approach. It simply doesn’t bother him. There are some people like that. It’s mind boggling.

He’s so different from my elderly cousin who is 98 and extremely upbeat! She is very orderly and organized. She has a positive attitude about everything. She’s always dressed beautifully.

Your dad is also different from my mom who has been meticulous all of her life! Everything must be in perfect order! A place for everything and everything has a place kind of thinking and has to be kept spotlessly clean!

Others are content living in their organized chaos! Hahaha I know people like that. I worked with them. Their desk was a mess, but I swear they knew exactly where it all was. If someone moved anything on their desk it would freak them out. It’s interesting how people can be so different.
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Llama/Barb - unfortunately, looking bad over the years, Dad has a history of "can't be bothered", "let someone else do it", and, especially, "I don't need to spend money". Hes also VERY stubborn and selfish and won;t listen to anyone.

In his head, he doesn't need more than one set of clothes for 2 days because you can wear clothes for a week (in his head). Shower? No need its only a bit of pee.

He doesn't need to get pads or buy any because "it'll be alright" or "I'll manage without"

Hes fine to walk into the hotel soaking wet, wear trousers that stink because "no-one will notice". Same - it'll be ok to sit in the car for hours because "p wont mind at all". Many times I've taken him out in the past and I know within seconds his clothes are not clean and he hasn't washed for a good while. (He went 3 months once because he did not want to spend £200 or so towards the cost of a special shower which he got an £8000 grant for).

Car seats "give them a quick wipe and deny it if they ask".
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Barb,

I totally agree with what you just said. I have a cousin who is 98. She talks about her birthday party when she turns 100! She has always planned and looked to the future. She volunteers at her church.

She handles everything herself. She pays her own bills. She does her own shopping. No cane or walker. She is so blessed.

She is more of a positive thinker and planner than people half her age. If you think she is like that because she had a rosy life, you couldn’t be more wrong.

Her mom died when she was an infant. Her father abandoned them. My great aunts raised her and her brother who was my godfather, he died years ago. One aunt was sweet and encouraging, the other mean and hateful who told her that she was ugly and stupid.

She was intelligent and beautiful. She ended up graduating with honors and working at the pentagon! She wanted to get away from the mean aunt. She sent the nice aunt money and gifts. She sent the mean aunt nothing!

She met her husband in DC, later returned to New Orleans where they raised a family. She lives in an independent living facility now, no health issues to speak of.

She attends senior exercise programs. She’s a size 4. She’s a little firecracker! She has an incredible memory. Whenever I have a question I call her up. I just love her. She will rejuvenate my memory after talking with her. It’s amazing!

She buried her husband years ago. She buried two children as well.

I often wonder if her positive attitude has kept her brain functioning at it’s best. The only thing her doctor gets upset with her about is he feels at 98 she should stop driving! I do too. She is fiercely independent and doesn’t like taking the shuttle bus to her doctor appointments.

She needs to stop driving because she has a heavy foot. She gets speeding tickets! Hahaha She always has. Otherwise, she’s fine.
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Paul, the lack of planning ahead...new or always?

If new, it is a symptom of real cognitive decline, possibly the result of a stroke or TIAs. Brain imaging?
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paul: Good grief! I say to myself - I WILL NOT be that elder who doesn't get to the loo in time. Heaven forbid! I cannot believe if he knew that he might mess (well, not his fault as you say), but to pack extra clothing just because one needs to. Then to say "give the auto a quick wipe." Good heavens!
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Well then, this might be an excuse not to drop everything and run when he says so:
"...UK's Health Secretary Matt Hancock, adding that soon every Briton over the age of 70 will be asked to remain at home for up to 4 months and have groceries and vital medication delivered."

Maybe if he HAS to do this, he'll get used to it? Now it won't be YOU saying to do this, but government orders! Would give you at least 4 months reprieve!

Beatty - "Woolworths"? There are still some out there? I thought they went the way of the Dodo long ago!!!
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No, Beatty, 'tisn't! I have just been to stock up on essentials, e.g. Cadbury's Mini Rolls, and noticed a sign on the loo roll shelves - ONLY ONE PACKET PER CUSTOMER, PLEASE.

Well nobody's going to fall out about the last one because there weren't any packets at all.

The cheerful and pleasant young man at the checkout said he reckoned they'd already had their normal Sunday's trading within the first two hours.
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CM, I know. That's why MY pantry is fairly normal - plus the lentil mix ;) & I haven't been brawling over loo roll.

Stocking up, I believe shows SOME evidence of planning, of using the frontal lobe. This is actually a new skill for many here. I mean, sure they all hit the supermarkets in the same week to stock up in a mass panic way, but these are the people who run out of milk, every week.

My workmate went into panic last week when his family of 4 was down to the last 2 rolls. I asked did he usually wait until he was so low? Yep. He basically runs out of things then buys it.

So between the selfish, the opportunistic (gunna sell it on eBay!) the un-planners & the bogans (many, many bogans) there is panic & empty shelves.

May your part of the world be better prepared, more sense & better manners.
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Beatty, as has just been pointed out by a statistician on the radio - if every shopper stocks up a little extra in case, what happens?

Say your local supermarket, every single Saturday, sells 400 +/- 50 packets of Knorr chicken noodle soup and carries a rolling surplus of 100. Yesterday, demand for 800 (normal shoppers get one extra "in case") + 1500 to shoppers who are stocking up their larders. OHMYGOD! You can't even get packet soup!!! BUY BUY BUY!!!

Is there a chicken noodle soup shortage? No. There isn't. There are people behaving abnormally. What would help is if we would all calm down and stop it.
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Llama - yes the trip was infuriating. I wasn't annoyed that he'd "had an accident" - not his fault after all.

I was, however, really annoyed with his lack of planning, general stubborness and stupidity and a lot caused by his attempts to not spend money again. Also, his standards of hygiene are very low indeed and he tends to force it on others.

Luckily car hire didn't notice. I did feel a bit bad though for the next person. Of course, Dads attitude was "give it a quick wipe down no-one will notice" which I think is a bit much.
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Yeh the virus is causing a lot of grief for a lot of people...

Sports not important. But they called off the Saturday game at 2pm Friday so thousands of Scots were already here. I went out anyway after all and it was rammed full of people.
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CM - Dunno what Dad doing then because he always had the paper thin ones. Knowing him he couldnt be bothered to ask for better ones.

Well he never bothered to use or order after the first lot. 12 months went by and they'd taken him off the list because he never ordered any.
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Woolworths just cancelled all online collects & deliveries for my state. My Dad's order for Friday collection was moved to Monday & now just cancelled completely.

I went yesterday - didn't want to panic but thought I might stock up a little in case my rellies have not planned. No frozen veg, no tinned soup, no tissues, pain relief or toilet paper. Empty Isles. Surreal.

Did get packets of lentil mix soup starter & tinned pineapples...

Paul, maybe get some extra tinned soup & frozen veg now in case this craziness spreads to yours & your Dad's towns.
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As I put on another post, the situation with toilet paper is that is a high bulk, low value item that fills up a lot of valuable space in a supermarket. Supermarkets have a good idea of turnover, and they order very regular supplies to keep up with demand. However if several people waltz in and want a trolley full, the shelf empties quickly. It isn’t easy to reorganise the production and supply chains to cope with unprecedented demand. I went through this myself in the early 1970s in London, during the oil crisis (yes, I really did cut paper toll roles in half). Unfortunately, when the rush starts, it’s real – yes there is a shortage! However the actual use stays constant, so eventually no-one will buy the stuff. Our local manufacturer is putting on night shift at the moment, knowing full well that demand will drop off dramatically in the not-too-distant future. My biggest worry is the stress on the sewerage systems if people start going back to cutting up newspaper in neat little squares for the long drop dunny!
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So long as we don't catch it, or just get a mild case, look at the brighter side of things. Hope for the best!

Earlier this week, email regarding what mom's facility plans to do to limit exposure (it has IL, AL and MC.) Tonight - uh oh, new email.... Gov'na is planning to nix all visits, probably starting Monday... guess I'd better squeak one in! (BTW, currently we have 6 cases, all well N and E of here!)

On a different note, I did go out today to pick up a couple of items, of which the plan was a few rolls of TP, because the supply here is running low. Well, the idiocy has hit rural NH just like other places. Not a single sheet of TP in sight. >sigh< Last weekend the shelves were totally full... Figured we were okay and I didn't need them, so I skipped it. My bad.

I did a query on why people are doing this, but I still cannot grasp why ANYONE would want to snag several months worth of TP. There are other much more important items to have on hand, generally there is a plentiful supply, and even if quarantined, it's only a few weeks! WTH???
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paul: Oh, my gosh! That had to be a mess of a trip. Sounds like my late mother - I didn't realize she was incontinent both WAYS until I had to live with her to care for her. THEN - to avoid laundry, she was putting the pooped up trousers (for women) over the chair by her bedside. Soon remedied that by putting them in the washing machine as soon as she fell asleep. Over the radiator had to be not so nice! And good thing that the car rental place didn't notice anything wrong with the auto's seat, after you'd scrubbed it! Sheesh!
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Polar,

Okay, I will speak to my husband and oldest daughter and see what they say. I suppose we can still keep hotel reservations in Baton Rouge. We will have to play it by ear.

My daughter is leaving, you know? Yeah, she wants to leave Louisiana and go to Colorado after graduation. So, I really wanted to have a celebration before her departure. Oh well...

Guess what her plane tickets cost to fly to Denver? $58! Airline tickets are extremely cheap now!!! She has job interviews lined up in Denver in June.

Thanks.
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