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NobodyGetsIt, your comments to Martz06 about the need for exercise are so appropriate and insightful.      Even just walking and even just around the house is stimulating; outside is better b/c we have to make little decisions, where to go, cars to watch out for, or little (but hopefully not big!) critters if we're in more rural areas.

I've repeatedly suggested this and still feel that it's one of the best resources for people with limited movement, inability to get out and walk, or even stand and walk. It's the dance regimen adapted by  Mark Morris ballet dancers for people with Parkinson's Disease.

I've seen the video on development of that movement, get their e-mails and updates on the Dance for PD program.    Benefit can still be gained for those who aren't that mobile, even just by sitting and moving.  

https://danceforparkinsons.org/

The videos on the site change; right now there's one showing a blend of standing (if you can) or sitting, and stretching the upper body.
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Good advice and suggestions, especially advice on how our very human and vulnerable bodies react.   

Madison, first I would mentally eliminate the "cuckoo" in your screenname, if only in your mind.    I don't disagree that mental challenges present themselves to someone in your situation, but accepting them works against getting past them.  

Personally, I think caregiving at any level affects someone, with varying degrees depending on the individuals, extent and length of care, and especially lack of support.   I also think getting through and then past this was probably the biggest challenge of my life.    I'm still working on it.

I know that time is scarce, but we do have to find some way to relax, redirect, and find resources to cope.   Perhaps the hardest aspect is recognizing when boundaries need to be set, and doing so.    Sometimes just explaining that you can't continue to provide support as you have been doing w/o some relief, and that works both ways, so you both need to find ways in which the arrangement can work is less stressful.  

Sounds easy in writing, doesn't it?   We know though that it's not.   It's challenging; we feel guilty; our parents, perhaps in a panic we can't even begin to comprehend, feel abandoned.    In some ways it's a negotiation.     I approached it that way, and it helped me.

I also listened to music, a lot, wandered through my garden and sometimes at a local park, crafted or designed crafts that I didn't have time to make...I found that creative ideas sparked an otherwise dormant coping mechanism and helped me plan, more positively.

Perhaps all the good advice others have and will offer can help you realize you're not alone; I'm sure that many people face similar situations but don't share it.   And many are fortunate to have family who help.  

This is a challenge, and you will be stronger for it once you're able to begin putting distance between it and your life now and in the future. Yes, that's easier said than done, but it can be done.  Each of us has to find the method that helps guide us through.   

The "overwhelming" issue needs to be specially addressed.    Prioritizing helps, making charts and lists helps, but they need to incorporate down time, even if it's only 5 minutes every hour.   

What were your hobbies and pleasures before caregiving started?   How can you now resurrect them, again, even if only in a planning stage, or for a few moments a day?

I always kept gardening magazines in my tote bags and relied on them heavily when sitting in the ER or hospital room.   I also took a notepad and made sketches of different garden configurations, or just plans for the next season.  The distraction helped immensely, especially while waiting for diagnoses.

Help us help you by telling us of your life before caregiving.  What did you do?  Were you working, involved in volunteer work?   What hobbies did you have?   Spent some time thinking about them and sharing them with us; I think it will really help.

Something else that helped me is keeping track of decisions and factors affecting them, what alternatives existed, how my parent and I handled them, and especially those that were successful.   I can translate some of them into lessons learned for the rest of my life.
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NobodyGetsIt Oct 2020
Beautifully said "GardenArtist" and you have given the OP as well as the rest of those who read your post many good ideas in which to implement if they so choose. Like you, my mom always loved gardening throughout her life as well as subscribing to gardening magazines as an outlet for the daily stresses of life.

I also agree having "cuckoo" in her screenname just produces a disparaging thought against herself even if it's in the subconscious. We somehow need to become our own best allies in order to move forward productively. We get beat up enough through caregiving that we needn't do it to ourselves.
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4 years ago I felt like I was losing my mind... Anxiety, panic attacks, etc. and I didn’t know what was going on. I found out I am in perimenopause. So needless to say stress I could normally handle I just couldn’t anymore. With problems at home and an aging father with dementia next door, everyday is stressful. I can’t get away from it. Im on anxiety pills and may need hormones because I haven’t figured out how to handle everything yet. Journaling was recommended but I haven’t tried it yet. I usually text a friend and beg for help 😁. If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know. I’m very sorry you are going through this. I hope you find the help you are looking for.
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NobodyGetsIt Oct 2020
Dear "Martz06,"

I know the combination of perimenopause along with the anxiety, panic attacks etc. makes everything look so much more magnified. Our bodies aren't meant to be producing constant cortisol (a primary stress hormone) which is very harmful. It contributes to the "fight or flight" response. We can't be in that mode 24/7.

I've had to take anti-anxiety medication too because of the negative toll it was taking on my health.

I know no one likes the word "exercise" but, it truly is one of the best methods when it comes to stress and anxiety. It's free and it can be done whenever you want as well as in the privacy of your own home if you don't want to go out. It could be 30 minutes or even 15 if that's all you have - the key being "it must be something you like" or you won't do it. I play my favorite upbeat music and do dancing/aerobic type movements. If you can't think of anything you like to do "exercise-wise," think of something else but, hopefully there's some actual movement rather than being completely sedentary which basically keeps us in a slow, low energy mode.

I liked your statement "I usually text a friend and beg for help" - that works too unless they stop returning your texts, LOL!
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I am so very sorry that you are struggling with this situation.

I actually went to see a therapist for stress overload. Not that I have ever been a big eater but I couldn’t eat either.

My doctor warned me not to lose any more weight and told me to gain weight! My therapist told me that not eating was effecting me negatively. I wasn’t at peace. I was apathetic. I had anxiety and depressed.

Friends and neighbors were starting to ask me if I was sick. I just couldn’t eat. Total loss of appetite. The thought of food made me nauseous!

I cooked for my family. I am a wonderful cook. I enjoy cooking but I couldn’t eat. I used cooking as a distraction and to feed my family but I had no interest in eating much of it.

Did you start getting hives? I did. I would be in my therapist’s office and he would ask me a question and while relaying the answer, I would break out completely in hives! It was embarrassing. He couldn’t help but notice it. He said to me, “You are covered in hives. When stress starts showing up physically you are in trouble.”

My therapist also taught me breathing exercises that I still do. Because another time he said to me, “You don’t breathe. You stop breathing and then gasp for a huge breath of air.”

I was having high blood pressure issues too when caregiving. I was sent for heart tests and everything.

My doctor put me on max dosage. I have since been able to reduce my meds after my caregiving has stopped.

So yes, stress can overwhelm us. It can exhaust us. I hope you find relief soon.

I started journaling. That helped. It doesn’t have to be but a few thoughts a day. Going for a walk helps. Exercise releases natural endorphins. It’s a great stress buster too.

Best wishes to you.
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Midkid58 Oct 2020
When I was at my worst, I also could not eat. I could barely swallow cold water.

Lost a ton of weight, but in a very unhealthy way.

When I start feeling that way again, I know something is 'triggering' me.
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What if it gets worse? How do you feel about getting a hospital SW to have the state take charge of her and place her? Surely you've done all you can, all you dare, with your health breaking down....
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Oh I have been the ‘calm and collected one’ which I’m now seeing has created unhealthy dynamics.

I started taking D-mannose after the LAST uti ( became chronic in the past 2 yrs hm wonder why ) plus probiotics and I usually do accupuncture once a month but haven’t since last February due to Covid. At 49 I’m still surfing and doing cardio kickboxing and go bananas being inside not walking around or whatnot, so this body exhaustion is waaaaaay off. As soon as it seems safe I’m running back to accupuncture.

Had panic attacks years ago and for the most part got rid of them, arrrrr. What’s so difficult is even now I’m told to ‘Stay Strong!’ And ‘ Your mother needs xyz’ and my mother keeps after me and it’s this feeling of entrapment. Yup POA and all that comes with it. What’s so unnerving is I have done good self care and boundaries but my body is totally kicking my arse.

Thank you guys for chiming in! I know stress ( duh ) but this feels like a tipping point and it’s scary and frankly embarrassing. We’re the ‘strong ones’, right?!

And MidKid I’m so glad you’re in remission!
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You have just got to take a break for yourself. No matter what, you just have to.

Step back and breathe. Get you some "ME" time. You have to take care of "YOU" first.
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You absolutely are getting the wake up call from your body that you are overdoing it.

I won't go into detail, but years of CG for older relatives, friends, and mostly my DH has left me with hyper sensitivity to stress. I had cancer last year and the TX took me to my knees, emotionally. People kept telling me how strong I was. To only the few people close to me did I disclose that I was really almost suicidal--and wished I did not opt for TX. (I would have died within 6-9 months). I did do the full TX and achieved remission in time to get the shingles, then got through 6 weeks of that to have COVID roll in. (I have not gotten it, but it really does cut into our lives)

Panic attacks became the norm, and I was already dealing with those for years and years. I started having 2-4 hour panic attacks where my heart would pound and race at about 250 BPM. Horrifying and actually painful. I just thought 'great, one more thing to deal with' but I did bring it up to my PCP in a virtual visit. He had me do a 3 day heart monitor test--turns out I was throwing 'episodes' with my heart almost all day long, only the bad ones were making me miserable.

I'm on a beta blocker and it has helped. I have had to be a LOT tougher about DH's desire to argue politics all day--having him home is awful but I don't have a choice. I'm doing a follow up TX which makes me so tired and depressed. Yet, I have panic attacks all the time. They're better--and I know that once COVID is 'better' and DH can go back to work, things will be better.

My Dr. said my body/mind was simply overwhelmed with 'bad stuff'. A lot of family problems, which I will not go into--but I am trying to step away and not be involved any more.

Your body will have a limit. We all have one. Some people are amazingly calm and collected all the time. I used to be...years ago. But life happened--if I listed all the health issues my DH has been through and all the stuff with raising 5 kids--I am amazed I am still standing.

GET TO YOUR PCP and get something for the panic attacks. They are not to be left w/o treatment. List the issues in your life and try to cut out as many of the negative triggering ones as best you can.

I no longer speak to my MIL and I never will again. People think I'm horrible, but I just couldn't deal with her. I also don't see my own mother often and that's the way it has to be. I also leave the house if DH is home and working, which is very stressful--our home is small and he is loud. One of our kids has no spoken to me for 6 months--and doesn't respond to texts or calls. That hurts.

But you have to take care of you and I have to take care of me. I'd love for my DH to care for me, but he can't and won't. I am learning to not expect him for anything.

Good Luck. Don't ignore the PA's--they are legitimately awful and a good sign things aren't OK.

((Hugs))
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Wriggley Oct 2020
Hello...I am sending you a big “HUG” today for your honesty and insightful answer on how to handle a dire situation when your body starts to react to constant, 24/7 unrelenting stress. I have been on a similar journey since December 2014. My dear Dad was diagnosed with bladder cancer at age 80...had surgery to remove his bladder and endured severe complications...it took him three months to be released from the hospital...then subsequently my Mother endured a herniated disk and severe UTI which ended up with her hospitalized for three months...all the while my husband has gone thru 3 job losses/changes. We lost my Dad three days before Christmas 2018 which was also 7 days before my parent’s 61st wedding anniversary due to my Dad’s cancer spreading to his brain and bones. Now we are faced with Covid ...my single adult son has been out of work for 7 months...my brother who has been in and out of employment due to companies relocating since my Dad became ill (almost six years)...my Mom has dementia and requires 24/7 care which my brother and I do for 48 hours and then alternate...and now my husband’s widowed father has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s and my husband is the only caretaker nearby...so how do you keep from your body completely shutting down from unrelenting stress non-stop for almost 6 years 🤔...the only thing left in me is 🙏...Any other suggestions from this brave, courageous group of full-time caregivers will ALWAYS be cherished.
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Is the UTI cleared up now. Please start yourself on D-Mannose now and take it regularly. Private message me if you want my story on THAT, and frequent UTIs over four a year with ZERO in last decade.
That said. Are you POA? It seems you must be. They cannot force you to find a place in that short time. They have nowhere to discharge her to. Are there any organizations/businesses like A Place For Mom that can help you search memory care? The worst they can do is send her to hospital if she cannot safely be handled there, and then get the Social Worker there on it.
UTI recovery is tough. Keep on that. Ask for some mild anti anxiety med; talk with your doctor about all this right now. Remember Panic Attacks are giving us a message. It is fight or flight, and with us unable to get anywhere with any of that the body just paralyzes with fear and anxiety. Be easy on yourself. More people get panic attacks than you can even begin to imagine.
So sorry you are going through this. Remember, a day at a time. They cannot discharge her to your home and must make a safe discharge. Remember to take deep breathes often. Practice breathing in to slow count of 3, and out to count of four. Just the counting of it helps, as well as the breathing.
As to the answer to your question of the have we had the breakdown. Oh YES! And many years ago, not over parents, but over abusive husband. I am 78. I was about 22 at the time. Will never forget it. Talk about an out of body experience. Brief, and never had another, but it was the trip of a lifetime.
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