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Your husband is putting his mother’s happiness over the vows he made to you , his wife .

As far as your MIL’s high expectations ….. TO BAD. She doesn’t have the money for a grandiose facility . That’s just a fact of life . She’s not the first person that will have to adapt to a facility . Do you plan on doing this another 20 years ? She’s not going to be the first person unhappy in a facility either .

But she’s the one with dementia . She’s the one ill , but you are who is unhappy . Your husband is allowing his mother’s illness to destroy you and your marriage . Meanwhile his mother his happy as a pig in you know what . This is wrong on so many levels.

Dementia is an awful disease . But it is your MIL’s disease . It should not be ruining 3 peoples lives and a marriage . I placed my own parents in facilities , it sucks , but was necessary . Their problems became too disruptive for my family , maintaining a marriage and still had my youngest ( teen) child living at home .

I also only worked part time for a decade so I could help my parents be able to stay at home before placing them . They were placed when they needed 24/7 care. I was not moving in with them or having them live with me . I knew that would have ended my marriage .
“ Doing the right thing “ affected my income and retirement savings because I did not work full time . That really wasn’t fair to me . My parents refused to let hired help come in the house and they could afford it . I now regret not setting better boundaries . I was groomed by my mother to be their caregiver .

Your MIL can not live in an overly staffed facility with constant attention because she can not afford it . I’d like a beach house too , but not happening. We don’t all get what we want , and especially not at the expense of someone else’s life , marriage , and finances .

Your husband is using her dementia as an excuse for your lives to be upended because his mother is a spoiled high maintenance brat with expensive expectations . She needs a reality check that she can not afford the Ritz Carlton of facilities . Your husband needs to take off the mama’s boy shorts and put his big boy pants on and MAN UP.

I don’t have an answer for you , your husband seems totally brainwashed , and easily manipulated by his mother’s demands . And you defend , your husband’s choices . I don’t see your life improving unless you leave and rebuild your own life .
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It sounds to me as thought your MIL is playing a game with you. She “is doing well and very healthy outside of her dementia”. How was she diagnosed with Dementia? What sort of dementia, and what is the expected life span – she has already survived for 10 years, which is a long time. She is only 72, for heavens sake, and “she is healthy as an ox outside her dementia”. She “would not last a year in a basic care facility” is NOT consistent with “healthy as an ox”.

You say “she still has friends and gets plenty of engagement with her community and social interactions”. Quite honestly, this doesn’t sound to me like 10 years into progressive dementia. Neither does “ she behaves like she thinks she is royalty”. Most people are a bit past that stage after such a long time. “Everything has to be done a certain way or she baby rages”. Whoopy Duck! I wish that would work for me! “When I explain her level of disability I get things like we have it easy” – perhaps her ‘needs’ rather than her ‘wants’ really are NOT as high as the care you are providing. She might not love facility food, but the chances of her starving herself to death are low.

My suggestion would be that you get a new medical assessment of what on earth is going on here. I just don’t believe it. It sounds like a very controlling woman who has got exactly what she wants, and has probably picked up some tricks about how to fake dementia. Before you write these comments off as "you just don't understand', you need to accept that people really do drift into situations like this while never questioning whether they are being led up the garden path.

You are facing another 10 years of this, plus no home, no babies, and even worse feelings about her and your husband. Are you prepared for that?

You may be making some wrong assumptions about care facilities. She would get “barely a handful of hours or attention in a medicaid facility”. That may be all the ‘nursing’ time she actually needs. Residents get together in other ways, they don’t sit alone in their rooms all the time. Fees 'start and 14K' sounds a bit high, too.

Many people come to the site wanting advice about how to change things without having a big row. Slim chance of that here! Perhaps think about this, and tell us how much you are prepared to rock the boat. If you aren’t, nothing much will change. If you are, perhaps we can come up with some strategies.
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Caregivingsucks Oct 17, 2024
It is not like it has been hell for 10 years it has only really been the last 4 years things have been rough. She has a diagnosis of mixed dementia, we don't know the mechanism behind the why. Her MRI does not shown any infracts chronic or otherwise. Blood work is normal, no diabetes, good cholesterol, blood pressure is perfect.

As for the friends, I don't think she remembers them per se but she is happy to see them as are they. They are her close friends prior to her showing symptoms and they still are good friends with her now. They are extremely understanding and love her dearly. Her friends did not ghost on her which appear to the normal.

The engagement is not like adult engagement more like adults with a child but she does have fun and you can see that. Their churches does support her a lot. Which plays a role why I feel like shit at times cause they appear to be able to deal with it while I am struggling because I want a normal life.

Their favorite line is God does not give you more than you can handle. Everyone is so warm and kind with her.

What do you mean rock the boat? You mean give my husband a choice? I thought about that my first thought is wouldn't that just create resentment on my husband's side. Oh look the women that made me choose between my mom or her.

For New York private pay 14k is actually not the highest One place was 25 to 30k all in.

As for the sitting around that is the point my MIL is not into puzzles, bingo, watching TV and stuff. She is still extremely active. She loves her garden, she loves to dance, get dressed up and go out for dinners, go the theater .

If you ask her what she did will she remembers? No but she clearly enjoys the experience and I think that is what my husband is focusing on giving her as many positive and happy experiences as possible. Heart of hearts I feel bad because what kind of person thinks giving someone that gift is wrong because they feel neglected.

Faking dementia? I get what you are saying but I laugh because my parents went through something similar with me oh she is not autistic enough because I did not tick every box neatly. I doubt she is faking it to the point doctors and both NYU and Columbia could not see it.

I will say I agree she does not need the level of care she gets but that is a more complex situation because what medcaid views as a need often differs from what medical teams think. Her medical team does not feel someone with demenita should ever be alone since you never know when they can have a lapse.

My husband does blindly follow what they tell him because they are the experts in their eyes. Just like when they told him blame the diease not the person and live in their reality it does just that.

Edit The facilities I went to were both SNF and assisted living both private and Medicaid eligible. I also looked into those small group home type deals.
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Curious, does your husband get tired of the caregiving, does he get frustrated?

What if you went on your own vacation, got away for a bit. A friend or even just a nice pretty relaxing place, to read a few good books.

He may feel differently after some time alone with mom
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He does not show it, he has stepped up a lot since I told him I was going back to work but that also has created issues cause now she takes more time away from him. Things take longer cause he is doing it himself and she does fight him more when it comes to tasks. She would listen or be more responsive to me. With him everything is a battle but he pushes through but by the time he is done he is exhausted. Before we shared the load.

I want space from her not my husband I do not want to go on vacation without him that is also the issue. I miss my husband not alone time. My husband gives me plenty of that when I asked. I want to be a normal married couple..
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Caregivingsucks, welcome to the forum. Please note that family caregivers (you and/or hubby) who care for a person with dementia, 40% die leaving behind the love one they were caring. Those are not good odds. When what? Let hubby know about this percentage. www.huffpost.com/entry/dying-at-home-family-caregivers_n_592738e6e4b0df34c35ab57f


What confuses me about your post is that you say Mom-in-law has friends and gets plenty of social engagements with her community.... but does not recognize her own son??


Please go to the green/blue bar at the top of this page and click on CARE TOPICS... now click on the letter "D".... you will find numerous articles about Dementia, read as many articles as you can. Hopefully these articles will be helpful. And learn to say "I cannot possible do that" over and over until it feel easy to say. Use the next time your hubby wants you to do something for his Mom.
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Caregivingsucks Oct 17, 2024
Is it really that uncommon? Her doctors have told us it is not that uncommon.

My husband has stepped up for his mother. He does not ask me to engage with her I sometimes find myself doing it because I see him struggling cause she feels more comfortable with me. Granted I have only recently become cold and nasty with her, but she still remembers me when we were sort of a happy family when I was young and stupid.

I will look at the other topics though.

Thanks for the article you posted but doubt if I showed that to him he would see that to support how claim that our medical system is not equipped to handle dementia and why would he let his mother get barely a handful of hours or attention in a medcaid facility. Was an interesting read though.
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You can't go on like this, this is not healthy for anyone, you, your husband and even your mil.

I'm sorry but your husband needs counseling. I to, have a mom that never gave me unconditional love, and I craved it. I did everything for my mom after my dad died, hoping to get that. I had to accept the fact that I never will. If I didn't accept the fact , I would of distroid myself and my marriage.

Your husband needs to find a way to accept this, and do what's right for his immediate family, and that is you! not his extended family, which is his mother

I think you need to try and get your husband some help, to help him get his priorities straight. If he won't, you need to do what's best for you.

Sorry you are going through this 😔
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He has gone for help, issue is he finds help that align with his view. His view was his mother did everything for him, she did not ask for this diease and should be given as comfortable as possible a life despite the diease. This is why marriage counseling always tends to go in his favor. Even his church has this view. Which is hard.
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The only way is to set boundaries and to be clear and upfront about what you can and can’t, and will and won’t do.

I think you need to tell him what you have written here. You can’t go on like this. You did it for 10 years (!!!) and you can’t take it anymore. He needs to choose between living with you and living with his mom.

I don’t get why paying for respite care and/or residential care is his/your problem. Does his mom have zero assets and zero income and no Medicare?

I also don’t get how marriage counselors painted you as evil. You have just as many rights and needs as your husband does. The living situation has to work for BOTH of you. His mom is not part of the marriage.

It sounds like he has lack of boundaries and people pleasing /fawning tendencies with his mom. Like he thinks if she is upset, his security is threatened. Maybe she brainwashed him to think her every whim was his command. It’s weird she gravitates more to you.

If you are not able or willing to be clear with your husband and lay it on the line, another approach would be to say I’m taking a full time job and signing up for night classes or taking up hobbies for most of my free time because I can’t stand being in the house with her any longer. But I don’t think that what you really want.

Good luck!
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Caregivingsucks Oct 17, 2024
No she does not have any assets outside her social security. She does have medicaid due to her income. My husband was able to get her a rent voucher that covers 70% of the rent she is responsible for the the other 30.

I have been clear with him and he has stepped up it just has only added to my resentment. Since she has taken more of his time away. I have gone back to work which does help me feel a little normal.

Thanks for the Feedback.
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I don't understand how your DH feels it's better for his mother to live in a hateful environment rather than placing her in a Skilled Nursing facility with Medicaid funding. At least she'd have a peaceful environment, you'd have your life back, and in turn, your DH would have peace.

He should NEVER be spending your marital income on mother, never. Her income needs to be used for her care and management. If she does not have sufficient income, she applies for Medicaid like the rest of the poor slobs who need care for dementia but can't afford it. She can baby rage till the cows come home too, she'll get over it.

You say your MIL would not last a year in a basic care facility. How do you know that? She's lasted 10 years in your home which sounds like a hostile environment! So many folks make this blanket statement and it's rarely true. My aunt was dying at home in her daughter's home before she was placed in a Medicaid SNF with a roommate. Lo and behold, she perked right up after admittance and went on to live 5 more years!

You have a marriage problem, not a MIL problem. Truthfully, it's not her fault she's living in your home against your wishes, it's DHs fault. He's put his mother above YOU, his wife. And that's not okay.

You are not a monster for feeling the way you do, I'd feel the same way I'm sure. You are young and so is DH. How old is MIL???? With AD, she can live 20 or more years, you know that right?

If I were you, I'd move out of that house and tell DH it's you or his mother, not both. 10 yrs is way more than enough to have devoted to this woman. It's your turn now, for you and DH to have a real marriage or for him to stay devoted to her. He can't have it both ways, imo.

Best of luck to you. Sending you a hug and a prayer for a resolution to this mess.
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Caregivingsucks Oct 17, 2024
I only recently got hostile towards her. As for the year comment she would not eat the food, let alone engage without someone guiding her through everything. She can also be insufferable. The staff would ignore her or drug her ungrateful a**.

She gets away with it at the place we send her for respite because the place matches her vision in her mind. A medicaid facility does not plus the level of engagement would be a fraction of what she gets now. I have done my own research and even places I went to tour and visit after explaining the things we do with my MIL they even said they would not even do a fraction of what we do.

She is 72 healthy as an ox outside her dementia.
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Your situation is heartbreaking. I hope your MIL, if healthy and whole, would have never chosen such a life for her son and daughter-in-law. This is no healthy marriage or life. No one, dementia or not, needs or deserves to be treated as royalty, or should be tolerated for raging when they don’t get their way. That’s simply ridiculous. Mom has really trained her son to put up with a lot. Too bad he doesn’t value his marriage as greatly as his mother. She could go into care, she would adapt, and your marriage would likely be saved, even flourish. It’s not like she’s getting superior care where she is, with burned out, exhausted family. The power here is with your husband, to see your misery and understand things must change for the mental health of all. I’m sorry you’re in such a mess. I hope you’ll go by yourself for that long weekend, treat yourself to somewhere nice and let hubby deal with his mother on his own. I wish you peace
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My husband takes live in their reality to the extreme. Has less to do with her training him and everything he has read about this disease like blame the disease not the person, live in their world, don't fight them. Etc
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