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I was taking care of my dad in our home..but then he had to be put in the nursing home and now they are saying I have neglected him and abused his money..I want to know what can I do to fight this??
The only way they would know about his money is if you had filed to Medicaid and given Medicaid his bank info. I think you need to meet with the department that the home called in. You need to answer the complaint. Ask first what address the certified letter was sent to. When did the PO try to deliver and get a signature. Does the PO have proof of trying to deliver. They should have left you a note. You may have to show regular doctor visits. Your Dad was living in ur home he paying for his share is not unusual. Did you go to the doctor when u were sick? There's proof u couldn't get back. Until u find out in writing what ur being accused of you can't move forward. Anyone can complain but they need to investigate the complaint. You could be found innocent.
What was your father’s health status prior to when he “had” to be admitted to a nursing home and who took him out of his home to the NH? When he was admitted to the NH did you apply for Medicaid for him? Maybe that’s how someone found out about his assets and now since you lived with him and had no POA but used his money to pay house bills and bills for your children’s care this was against Medicaid rules. How long was he in a nursing home? Medicaid eligibility has many rules that maybe you were unaware of. If I were you I would seek out an attorney to represent you. With your limited funds call the Public Defender’s office and find out your options. I hope things work out for you. If you don’t have money you might think about applying for low income housing for yourself and your kids. What was your source of income prior to this? Were you working and contributing to the house bills? That may help you if you can prove that you were paying the bills for your kids and food and shelter. If you weren’t any strictly using your father’s money, that can be considered “gifting” by Medicaid which is not allowed. If you have savings maybe paying the money back to your dad is an option. Your best bet is getting a lawyer.
I think it comes down to money. There was nothing in writing to prove to APS that your dad wanted you to have that money or to pay bills or to transfer the house. Medicare or Medicaid probably had a look to pay for the LTC, and that triggered an investigation. Estate or Medicaid attorneys are the best people to consult when you are pondering such a significant change of finances.
I just don't understand how they didn't call me and tell me how he was doing, but instead they want to say i neglected him..now i have dhs calling me and now the police calling and leaving messages.. I didn't do anything, i'm the only child that could take care of his house and bills and also my kids too..its just not fair.. he would have not wanted it this way..he wanted to sign everything over to me so me and the kids wouldnt lose anything.. so now i'm guessing they are taking his house, van, pretty much everything.. and now i'm at a friends trying to find a place to live and also try to get things out of his house.. cause they have put his bank acount over drawn..no bills can be paid.. i just sit here and cry cause its wrong.. just wrong...
Dee, I'm so sorry that your dad's health has declined so rapidly.
Sometimes our parents put on a really good show for us. But it sounds like when you became ill, dad declined quite rapidly, and thank goodness, the authorities stepped in!
Well all i know is he told me to take of all the bills and make me and my kids have money..I got really sick and still went to visit him that day, he was just fine and told me to go home and get well..so i tried and didnt get to see him for over a week..well then i go to see him and he has been moved from skilled to long term and i went in the room to see him and he didn't even know who is was and the social worker was in the room with us and i didn't under stand why and she told me she had to because of aps...and so i found out that dhs has been trying to call me and also sent me a certificated letter, which i never got, but she says it was returned..but they are saying neglect and abuse.. my dad has bad kidneys and congestive heart failure.. but he was only there for skilled to get stronger..and he was until i missed that week or so.. and now he is drugged and can't even talk or finish a sentense, don't know who i am or my best friend..he wanted me to do power of atternory and had all that done that day but i went to see him and he couldn;t sign anything.. but dhs is in control now..
Dee, we need to have more information. Such as how does the nursing home know anything about someone abusing your Dad's money? And what type of neglect is the nursing home telling you that had happened?
And can you tell us what is your Dad's health condition? Does he have any memory loss?
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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When he was admitted to the NH did you apply for Medicaid for him? Maybe that’s how someone found out about his assets and now since you lived with him and had no POA but used his money to pay house bills and bills for your children’s care this was against Medicaid rules. How long was he in a nursing home?
Medicaid eligibility has many rules that maybe you were unaware of. If I were you I would seek out an attorney to represent you. With your limited funds call the Public Defender’s office and find out your options.
I hope things work out for you. If you don’t have money you might think about applying for low income housing for yourself and your kids. What was your source of income prior to this? Were you working and contributing to the house bills? That may help you if you can prove that you were paying the bills for your kids and food and shelter. If you weren’t any strictly using your father’s money, that can be considered “gifting” by Medicaid which is not allowed. If you have savings maybe paying the money back to your dad is an option.
Your best bet is getting a lawyer.
Sometimes our parents put on a really good show for us. But it sounds like when you became ill, dad declined quite rapidly, and thank goodness, the authorities stepped in!
I'm glad he's getting care.
my dad has bad kidneys and congestive heart failure.. but he was only there for skilled to get stronger..and he was until i missed that week or so.. and now he is drugged and can't even talk or finish a sentense, don't know who i am or my best friend..he wanted me to do power of atternory and had all that done that day but i went to see him and he couldn;t sign anything.. but dhs is in control now..
And can you tell us what is your Dad's health condition? Does he have any memory loss?