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As far as I'm aware there isn't a better equivalent. And I would be extremely sceptical about anything claiming to be. Well, when I say sceptical - I mean I wouldn't touch it with a stick.

But I fully agree with your aunt and you that she shouldn't take morphine unless she herself feels she needs it (she shouldn't be afraid to take it, though, either - perhaps check that she hasn't been scared off it through misinformation?).

Back her up if anyone gets pushy with her, and guard against the kind of nurses - we've all met 'em - who forget their training and breeze up to administer the drugs without so much as a by-your-leave.
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It is the nature of threads to take on a life of their own, and since they are never closed they can draw responses far beyond any usefulness to the original poster. Once you have taken what you want from the answers you can choose to Stop Following a thread.
And yes, some people obviously post without reading anything beyond the first question or checking the date, that is why we get so many seemingly irrelevant answers and posts resurrected from years ago.
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I wasn't going to respond after Elizabeth wrote the first time that she wouldn't be following or posting on the thread.

But the answer is that there are herbs which lessen or mitigate some pain. Salmon oil has helped me with knee pain. I have a great muscle salve with a variety of non prescription substances that is the most effective thing I've used for pain. But it's for muscles aches.

However #1, these are minor pains compared to more serious medical conditions.

However #2, and this is the clincher, since I'm not a certified herbalist, a naturopathic or homeopathic practitioner, I wouldn't consider suggesting anything.

Any qualified practitioner would obviously need to meet with a potential patient and take a detailed history so that if anything was prescribed, it wouldn't interact or counteract with any other meds.

And some of the herbs in question might be sourced from countries that don't have a reputation for purity of products. That might be worse than no pain relief at all.

We often tend to think of medicine as a first choice, but there are hundreds of years of history during which Native peoples and herbalists and perhaps even some medical practitioners didn't have access to the volume and sophistication of meds these days. And some meds are in fact from natural sources.
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Imo it's all desperate hope at this stage of the game...
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Thank you for all these answers since my last post. Assandache, I don't know what you mean by "desperate hope". I'm fully aware she's dying and I'm not desperate for anything except information about other pain medications beside morphine. Nobody is trying to save her - she doesn't want to be saved. She wants to be in Heaven with the rest of our family. Who wouldn't, right? So we're jus trying to make sure that her path is as free as possible from stones - making her comfortable is our only goal.
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Nope. Nothing that works as well as far as I'm concerned.
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Elizabeth: See my first post.
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Have you considered CBD (cannabis) oil for pain relief? Oils and edibles are blended for different uses, with different levels of compounds for different needs. With the work that has been done to understand the benefits of the compounds of this plant, people no longer have to fear "being stoned" and many older people are successfully using cannabis products for pain relief.
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I have congestive heart failure, and have been (and am on, home hospice .) I was a biochemist in Public Health for thirty five years. I am literally shocked by the fear of pain relieving drugs. Many believe that the single use of morphine and other analgesics will turn the patient into a ravening addict, a criminal, or a mental vegetable.

I take the meds as needed, and have done so for nearly a year. They very much allow me to function as I did before the disease became pronounced.

I have a strong interest in the application of computer science to medication and their impact on disease and patients. I spend most of my day working on these problems (for free) with colleagues from the past. I am not a paid consultant, but receive my remuneration by knowing that I can still be of help to the sick and dying. To be able to help others. I can only do this through the relief from pain that is afforded me through meds.

I become angry that some caregivers refuse utile medications for their charges, when they could be relieved from a great deal of pain and suffering in their months last on earth. In today's political climate, patients are far more likely to suffer from under medication rather than over medication. Not only does proper dosing reduce the suffering, and improves the patients quality of life, but improves many of the ancillary symptoms as well as the lucidity and clarity of thought.

One of the most interesting observations that demonstrates the truth of the above assertions is that patients who have control of their own pain meds, use less, and report less pain, than patients whose pain meds are controlled by a third party.
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Groaker, this is an old post, but you raise some interesting points.

I haven't done any studies or research on why people refuse pain relieving drugs. So I don't know whether it's because of fear, or like me, impurities and lack of quality control in manufacture of ingredients for the end results of pills. Or, just not being reliant on drugs at all.

After reading about the filthy conditions in certain emerging market countries, and seeing photos in a congressional hearing of specific manufacturing plants in one of those countries, I was even more determined to screen whatever medications we take and buy only from pharmas in industrialized countries.

I eventually found a good pharmacy which buys quality medications.

However, I still would prefer to use natural substances that are proven, such as those used by Native Americans.

It's not a fear of becoming addicted though. I'd rather use meds sparingly, period.
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