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Your husband needs hospice so that he can die and you need it so you can live. It is his right to not want to continue his suffering and to prolong his life. Hospice helps with quality of life.
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I am surprised with all that is wrong with him that he hasn't passed. He has had cancer since 2015 I would have thought by now it has spread all over his body.

He has to be in pain. Maybe he will welcome Hospice because he will get medication for that.

So sorry ur going thru this.
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Call hospice, they will respect his wishes on dying and give you much needed support in his daily care and if I’m not mistaken they have support groups that can help you get through your resentment and grief.
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Your husband's diagnosis of metastatic cancer should enough for him to be admitted to hospice. Please call hospice and request they come and evaluate him. They will provide support for both of you during this time. They have nurses, CNA's, clergy, social workers etc. available at all times. AND(this is the big one) they will be able to keep him free from pain and also to help him die with dignity, the way he wants to. God Bless and be with the both of you!!
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Yes, I have told him, but it is what it is. This is his choice. And I do understand that as well. But even though it's his choice to die without help, is it fair to me for him to keep me wondering how long he has to live. I have a plan for my future, but I can't put that plan in play until I have a time-line of some sort.

As far as Hospice is concerned, there has to be proof someone is dying, right? My husband doesn't see a doctor anymore, so I have no proof he is dying except for what I see and know from when the doctors did see him.

This is my problem that I face everyday. Is my husband dying? I think so, but where along in the process is he? A few months? 6 months? Another year perhaps? This is what I'm talking about. I DON'T KNOW !!!!

Don't you have to have doctors recommendation that he now needs Hospice care in order for his insurance to cover it?

He won't allow anyone to come in and see him...PERIOD. I have had a Home Health Nurse want to see him and he refused.

I've posted before and didn't want to bring this up again, but my husband is a Narcissist and severely paranoid. He believes doctors are trying to kill him. He believes that doctors murdered his first wife. So I deal with mental issues as well as physical issues.

I feel resentment about him not seeing a doctor to see where he is in life, because I have applied for a Senior Citizen Apartments two years ago, thinking my husband didn't have very long to live. I can't afford to stay in this house once my husband passes away. But he refuses to move, and therefore I had to turn down the apartments when they came available because I couldn't move at that time. You are only allowed to turn an apartment down three times before they remove you from the list. I have been removed.

Today, this morning, I found a cute and cozy, mobile home in a Senior Citizen Mobile Home Community, close to where I live now. A place I've had my eye on for a long time, the price is right, and I would give anything to buy this home.

But I can't. I would need his income in order to buy this home in order for me to sell our current home. So I have to pass it buy. He will never consent to move.

I see so many possibilities for my future passing me by, because he refuses to plan for my future. And if a doctor told me he had another year to live or two, then I could deal with that. I think a person can deal with anything if they have some type of time line to go by.

But not knowing whether he has few months to live or 2 years to live, makes it impossible for me to really have any tangible plans for my future. And, I feel resentment and I feel betrayed because I wished I was married to a normal person who believed in doctors, even if he didn't believe in medicines. At least married to someone who cared about me and my future. But that has never been the case with us.
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CarlaCB Nov 2018
I know the feeling, Nancy. My life was on hold, in the same manner as you describe, during the last 7 years of my mother's life, and it vexed me to no end to not know how much longer I had left. And to have to defer other opportunities in the meantime, not knowing if they'd ever come again, or if I would be able to take advantage of them if it did.

I can tell you though that around the dying phase, not even hospice could tell me how long she might have left. One nurse who came about a week before her death told me that she could live a few more months in her condition. For me, that was unthinkable, because I was barely surviving doing 24/7 care for a helpless, immobile, incontinent parent.

There are websites that can help you estimate how long a person has to live based on symptoms. I found these more helpful than the doctors or hospice workers. At the time my mother became bedfast, I estimated her survival time as 1-2 weeks based on the website. She actually lived 12 days. Try that - I think the Mayo clinic online provides some of this information.
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My mother refused treatment the last 6 months of her life for a blood cancer (never diagnosed). Her doctor looked at her last round of bloodwork and told her "You either check yourself into the hospital today or I'm sending hospice to your house tomorrow." My mother did nothing, and hospice showed up. They explained to her that she wouldn't have to have any more bloodwork, dr. visits, or treatment, and that if she had pain or other issues they would come to her home to take care of her. So that's how she spent her last two months of life.

Hospice is the way to go here, as Barb and others have said. If he has Medicare Advantage, you will need to find a hospice that's affiliated with his plan. Also you may need his doctor to sign off on it. The one who diagnosed his cancer moving to the bone would likely agree to sign off on it.

He will probably have pain if he has cancer in his bones. He will need morphine or some other strong medicine. Hospice will prescribe that for him. You and he both need this.
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Please continue with Caregiver Support Groups, this will help you understand you are not alone in this battle. Your Husband's decision is his to make & his alone. We might not agree with or like it but it is up to each individual. Especially when his mind is sound. When people are fighting health problems like your Husband they reach a breaking point with Health Care. One reaches the point where they are sick & tired of being poked & praded by Medical People. The medication add all sorts of other issues. I believe one gets to a point they know there time is near & they just want to die in peace. Enjoy being alert & around loved one is very important. It's a more quality of life then being in a daze due to medications.

For you, please start reliving your life. Do things for yourself. This is your time to begin the process of moving ahead alone. The time you have with him left make it the best quality time as possible. These are very hard choices to make I understand that but you need to start moving forward for yourself. Accept his choice & move forward.

I will keep you in my thoughts as I know this is very distressing for you.
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I'm with CM: click on the "find care" button at the top of this page. Hospice is the level of care you're looking at; you'll put in your zip code and you'll get a list.

Start calling today until you find one who will send someone out to see him. Don't ask his permission; just do this. It's for you.
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Call a hospice organisation.

Here is why you should.

#1 Hospice will not even attempt to make your husband accept any treatment he does not want. They will completely respect his wishes. Honest. I promise you (or, rather, you can promise him).

#2 They will be able to relieve symptoms that are causing him needless pain or distress.

#3 They will support YOU as his primary caregiver. And your husband has no right to say there's no need for that, at least.

I understand his fear of being pushed into things he doesn't want, and his being sick of treatments, and all of that. But you can tell him he's a fool if he won't accept help from people who are genuinely on his side.

And you don't need his permission to call for advice. Would your doctor be able to put you in touch with the right services?

Hugs to you. I'm so sorry for what you're going through. We're here whenever you want to vent.
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Have you told him that his care is wearing you out, both physically and emotionally? Try to get him to see that YOU need help and that the only way to get it is for you to have a clear prognosis. If he is eligible for Hospice he won't have to accept treatment but there will be a support system in place for both of you.
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