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My sister's state of mind changes a lot. She can ask appropriate questions, joke a bit, and follow conversations But in a short period of time, can be in an almost catatonic state. Probably no real answers but just curious as to what others think.
This is actually highly unusual, and in that it is it is worth discussing with her doctor. Be certain she has a recent urinalysis test. Be certain she is not medicated or self medicated, because this going from active to almost catatonic seldom happens without medications being involved. Also know that dementias vary. Those that involve the brain's vascular system and mini strokes can result in much more irratic behavior as can Lewy's which has its "good moments" and its bad ones.
After you speak to MD, and after you look at a lot of Teepa Snow videos about various folks interacting with people with dementia, and if medications are checked out, you are then down to dealing with your own individual. Reactions in the dementia world are often as unique as our own thumbprints.
What type of dementia has she been diagnosed with? It is possible that the "almost catatonic state" might be when and shortly after a mini stroke. This should be brought to her doctors attention. If it is possible that the episode could be captured on video it might help. Obviously you can not have your phone out ready to video 24/7 but it might help if you have cameras put up with the ability to video. You would not have to keep all videos just one or two that show what is happening prior, during and after the episode.
Thank you all for your input. Sis is on palliative care and they determine which meds she needs. She has had multiple small strokes with a bigger one earlier this year. Dementia was already an issue. I would guess she has vascular dementia.
My Dear Sad4Sis, unlike some of the respondents, it is actually quite normal for the sudden shifts in mental state. It may be related to the types of Dementia, I don't know. She has TIAs often, but has never had a lucid moment before, during, or after one of those horrible events! My 92yo wife has late-stage Vascular Dementia and I still care for her at home with some paid help. I'm 71, so she got the better part of that deal. 🤣 I'm still healthy enough to take care of her. If she has had a good couple of days with no fits and she feels well, she will often have clarity of thought about different things for a short time. Though she has not recognized me since Nov 2019, she will sometimes recognize me during that clarity but it won't last long, and she will slip back into her own world of alt-realities. Just enjoy every moment of it you can!
My mother "fell" last year in May, we had Hospice come to the house since already had 24/7 care for my dad. She was released from Hospice last November. As I looked back kast year I realized she had a TIA. She didn't remember hitting the floor. In the past year she was generally kinder and through this August a nap helped cognition, but memory continues to decline and "up" time continues to decline. My mom's muscles are so weak she can't walk, but can still stand to pivot. I have a camera in her room and can prove she is not still / quiet / sleeping for more than 15 minutes at a time. One day of 8 hr sleep (with help from melatonin) gave her 2 hrs of "up" and better cognitive function, but otherwise confusion and wanting bed. I have caregivers and have been at home (Oregon vs Arizona) for 6 weeks on a break. Don't know what I'll experience when I arrive today, but definition of "normal"? With a dementia patient? Not sure there really is one. There are things to try - verify she is sleeping, check potassium levels (my mom is dangerously low according to in home nurse). My parents GP just retired and wasn't real helpful before, so we are lucky to have found an in home nurse service to do tests etc. Bless you!
this is totally my mom, she has a dopamine transport deficit, maybe vascular dementia, but she definitely has had several strokes. sometimes hydration helps, recently seeing possible correlation with blood sugar to blood pressure but not sure why this has all started happening. The only meds are levodopa/carbidopa and now we started on a small amlodipine.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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Be certain she has a recent urinalysis test.
Be certain she is not medicated or self medicated, because this going from active to almost catatonic seldom happens without medications being involved.
Also know that dementias vary. Those that involve the brain's vascular system and mini strokes can result in much more irratic behavior as can Lewy's which has its "good moments" and its bad ones.
After you speak to MD, and after you look at a lot of Teepa Snow videos about various folks interacting with people with dementia, and if medications are checked out, you are then down to dealing with your own individual. Reactions in the dementia world are often as unique as our own thumbprints.
It is possible that the "almost catatonic state" might be when and shortly after a mini stroke.
This should be brought to her doctors attention. If it is possible that the episode could be captured on video it might help. Obviously you can not have your phone out ready to video 24/7 but it might help if you have cameras put up with the ability to video. You would not have to keep all videos just one or two that show what is happening prior, during and after the episode.
In the past year she was generally kinder and through this August a nap helped cognition, but memory continues to decline and "up" time continues to decline. My mom's muscles are so weak she can't walk, but can still stand to pivot. I have a camera in her room and can prove she is not still / quiet / sleeping for more than 15 minutes at a time. One day of 8 hr sleep (with help from melatonin) gave her 2 hrs of "up" and better cognitive function, but otherwise confusion and wanting bed.
I have caregivers and have been at home (Oregon vs Arizona) for 6 weeks on a break. Don't know what I'll experience when I arrive today, but definition of "normal"? With a dementia patient? Not sure there really is one.
There are things to try - verify she is sleeping, check potassium levels (my mom is dangerously low according to in home nurse). My parents GP just retired and wasn't real helpful before, so we are lucky to have found an in home nurse service to do tests etc.
Bless you!
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