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SYMPTOMS OF MID-STAGE DEMENTIA Problems sleeping and confusing day and night Behaving inappropriately in social settings Wandering or becoming lost Difficulty with perception Delusions and/or hallucinations Increased aggression and irritability Inability to recall personal history, address, and phone number Changes in sleep patterns may begin
In order to fly, you have to wait in long lines, get asked numerous questions about where you are flying, manage your ID, boarding pass and luggage and comply with regulations about which bathrooms to use, where to sit and keeping masks on.
How compliant is this guy in social settings? Does he attend to directions given by folks he doesn't know?
No and I wouldn't even try it if I went with him. If in stage 6 there is no way this man should be alone. He will be in unfamiliar surroundings. You already said he has an attitude and people have been kicked off of planes for that. I would think he is incontinent so who is going to help him to the toilet and clean him up. Two people do not fit those toilets. I would not want to be the passenger next to him if he has an accident.
I really don't see how anyone could even think someone in stage 6 would be able to do this.
Of course not! If he must fly somewhere, then he needs to be accompanied by you or another adult so he stays safe for the entire length of the plane ride, the trip to and from the airport, etc.
If he's unable to function properly under normal circumstances by living alone, for instance, with stage 6 Alzheimer's, then he's not able to function normally alone on an airplane and in 2 airports where tons of people mill about!
@Sighopinion... Yes children fly but they are "accompanied" by attendants. The parent typically pays an extra fee for an "unaccompanied" minor. I am talking about allow a child fly ALONE without the attendant. If the gentleman has an "attitude" would they agree to be "accompanied" by an attendant? Would they follow the rules for flying? (wear a mask the entire time? remain seated? ....)
Not to mention, 6 year olds aren't incontinent, don't weigh 180 lbs or whatever a grown man weighs, and don't have advanced DEMENTIA FGS! Not a good comparison, children to Alz. adults.
So 90 and late stage dementia, well imo, he’s already flying and not in our solar system.
Humor aside, if he has attitude + late stage dementia, is he at all competent or cognitive enough for to do or deal with all the REQUIREMENTS that the airlines, TSA, airport police can ask of any passenger at any time? And be civil? And do all this while keeping a mask 😷 on the entire time? And be able to toilet properly on his own for the entire time?
You’re in FL, right? OK, so right now can he do the following scenario completely on his own: He drinks a glass of water and then you drop him off wearing a mask and with 2 empty tote bags at Publix (not an entrance but out in the parking lot) with a shopping list of 10 items (assorted but from frozen, citrus, dairy, bakery, coffee) and a checkbook so he’s having to pay for the 10 items with a personal check and tell him to meet you outside the other entrance in exactly 58 minutes with the packages in the tote bags (not in a shopping cart 🛒). Can he do this on his own and without an incident?
I love this...There are some days when I do not think I could complete the task assigned. (and I don't think I can recall the last time I actually wrote out a check!)
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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SYMPTOMS OF MID-STAGE DEMENTIA
Problems sleeping and confusing day and night
Behaving inappropriately in social settings
Wandering or becoming lost
Difficulty with perception
Delusions and/or hallucinations
Increased aggression and irritability
Inability to recall personal history, address, and phone number
Changes in sleep patterns may begin
In order to fly, you have to wait in long lines, get asked numerous questions about where you are flying, manage your ID, boarding pass and luggage and comply with regulations about which bathrooms to use, where to sit and keeping masks on.
How compliant is this guy in social settings? Does he attend to directions given by folks he doesn't know?
What prompts this question?
I really don't see how anyone could even think someone in stage 6 would be able to do this.
If he's unable to function properly under normal circumstances by living alone, for instance, with stage 6 Alzheimer's, then he's not able to function normally alone on an airplane and in 2 airports where tons of people mill about!
Yes children fly but they are "accompanied" by attendants. The parent typically pays an extra fee for an "unaccompanied" minor.
I am talking about allow a child fly ALONE without the attendant.
If the gentleman has an "attitude" would they agree to be "accompanied" by an attendant? Would they follow the rules for flying? (wear a mask the entire time? remain seated? ....)
Humor aside, if he has attitude + late stage dementia, is he at all competent or cognitive enough for to do or deal with all the REQUIREMENTS that the airlines, TSA, airport police can ask of any passenger at any time? And be civil?
And do all this while keeping a mask 😷 on the entire time?
And be able to toilet properly on his own for the entire time?
You’re in FL, right? OK, so right now can he do the following scenario completely on his own:
He drinks a glass of water and then you drop him off wearing a mask and with 2 empty tote bags at Publix (not an entrance but out in the parking lot) with a shopping list of 10 items (assorted but from frozen, citrus, dairy, bakery, coffee) and a checkbook so he’s having to pay for the 10 items with a personal check and tell him to meet you outside the other entrance in exactly 58 minutes with the packages in the tote bags (not in a shopping cart 🛒). Can he do this on his own and without an incident?
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