i (and all my other siblings) have given up trying to talk some sense into my mother and father who refuse to give up the enormous house that they cannot take care of. It WAS a beautiful five bedroom 31/2 bathroom stone colonial home, in a very expensive (tax wise) town in Delaware county.
My mother is the problem. she refuses to leave the house and move to an assisted living apartment that even I would love to move into. meals cooked for you, no maintenance to worry about, hair salon onsite, theater, bridge club (mom loves to play bridge), shuttle to go shopping and on outings (mom can barely walk much less drive), and the biggest thing, SOMEONE TO CLEAN THE APARTMENT ONCE A WEEK!
the house right now would take forever to clean out and repair. It is in such bad shape, but my parents don't seem to get it. they think it is still worth a fortune (look around, are you serious!). My mother has never ever cleaned (we used to have a cleaning lady come once a week, but that was eons ago) the house smells of urine, dirt, cat litter, and god only knows what else. I will not go into this house unless there is an emergency (mom or dad falling or sick) even then, i pay dearly as it makes me sick from just being inside there (really i am allergic to dust and mold). I have tried for over ten years to get them to move, but they will not. I would love to call someone and just have them go inside. I am sure the house would be declared unsafe, or unsanitary, but then I would be the bad guy here. At this point in time, I only mention it once in a while as it stresses me out so bad, i get terrible headaches. Why don't they get this? All I want is for them to be somewhere clean and safe where I can come to visit them.
Somehow Mom thinks that is the wrong thing to do. It would even be cheaper than what they are paying now to stay in this huge pit of a house.
so what happens (God forbid) if Dad gets sick, or dies? No way Mom can take care of herself. I can't take care of her either. I already have my mother in law living with us (she had enough sense to sell her house and move into an apartment, but they abused her so she moved in with us)
so there it is. I need some real solutions here as I seem to be the only sibling on a mission to get them somewhere safe. If they move into assisted living together, it will be a lot easier if one of them get sick or dies. harsh but who said reality wasn't harsh. I need real solutions for a very selfish stubborn woman to let go of this " money pit" of a house. PLEASE help!
First, I'd try what others have suggested. Pick an AL (rather than trying to get them to tour several). Have your mom play bridge at the community you've chosen and have lunch with other residents. I'd also send a confidential letter to their doctor, explaining the conditions under which they live and asking him to talk to her - of course that's only an option if she sees a doctor regularly.
If you've already tried to do that and she's refused to even look, move right along to Plan B. It's time for an intervention. I'd avoid being the only bad guy. You could end up destroying your relationship with your parents if it's you alone who insists they move (even if they love it, they'll always resent you). If possible, have all the siblings meet first to lay the ground work and then meet with mom and dad and lay out the plan.
Keep in mind that all they want is for everything to stay the same. Your mom equates the house to the times in their lives (and your lives as a family) when they COULD take care of it and when it was a wonderful place to live. Avoid trying to deal with them logically. It will only cause circular arguments. Think about it...they're never going to say "Oh, now I get it. The house is destroying us and we should move to make our lives better." That's not their reality.
Just state the facts that you and your siblings can't bear seeing them live in what, to you, is an unhealthy environment. That you want to spend more time with them. And, that you don't want to be in the position of having only days (or even hours) to decide where they'll live in the event that something happens. Their options will be very few if they wait for an emergency to decide.
Good luck. It's tough.
I know one family of four sons who called us and said they were bringing their mom to dinner at our community and laying down the law. Not being in the house they were trying to get her to leave was a plus as was their united front.
They just laid down the law that they would be moving her whether she liked it or not so she may as well like it. They didn't use persuasion. They'd reached their limit on pleading. They just spelled out how they were going to proceed. It worked for them.
Their home is not dirty, but repeatedly they have battled about staying there vs moving. They want someone in the family to buy their home but they don't want to part with it NOW. And there have been several 'nows'. And I am sure if anyone remodeled or changed anything they'd have a fit. My dad does not want to leave. My mother gets histrionic about wanting to leave, move, etc. but if you try to pin her down and suggest she get rid of stuff you hit a brick wall. And she gets hateful. A few years ago she bought 150 place settings of china because she found a close out sale and it was too good to pass up! She already had 12 place setting of her wedding china, had purchased twelve more and has inherited her mothers as well. But since she has gotten older, washing all those dishes is so much work, so she uses disposable plastic plates. And the washes them. And reuses them. And buys more if they are on sale. You get the picture.
Out of five of us you can imagine all the personalities. My one sister is just like my mother - drama, crying, lying, attention needing, can't make a decision but likes to bitch about everything that's wrong. One brother (like me) lives out of town, one is close by and does well; he would hire help for chores like leaf blowing for them, but they insist (basically 'if you really loved us you would...") you go over there on a Saturday to 'help' 'daddy' since he loves working in the yard. And my dad walks around his several acres with a gas powered leaf blower strapped to his fused back and can barely walk when he comes in. My one sister was poised to sell her house and buy my parents' at one point, but then they wanted my sister and her family to sell off, come live with them, and buy when they were ready to let it go. Which would be never. Is anyone getting the picture here?
My mother drags my dad out to look at 'patio homes' but they end up looking at something less than 2000 square feet with 'no yard' (that is the idea, right?) and then they get yet another appraisal on their home, which needs serious updating, and end up saying 'we just don't want to trade a ham for a weinnie". If I hear that one more time I am going to go out and go postal, I think! My dad still climbs up on the roof to clean gutters, my mother continues to buy more stuff and my dad continues to put it away. Once my whiny sister was having a garage sale to move and my mother had given her some things that she compulsively bought and they ended up in the sale. My mother went to the sale, saw her stuff and BOUGHT IT BACK. I am not kidding.
Here is my take away. My mother used to say "God looks after drunks and little kids". I am adding another category to that with a prayer. "Old crazy people". My parents by legal standards are 'sane'. They are not 'incompetent' so there is nothing I can do. We will all have a huge mess on our hands when that house has to be emptied out. And the way we all are so different, I am sure we will have WWIII. I accept that I cannot change this. When something happens to one of them, probably my father first, then we will have to revisit the situation. For now, I stay away. I refuse to drive myself crazy. My husband and I are in our late 50's-early 60's. He still works. We have grandchildren. We are of 'heart attack' age. If I let this get to me, they would easily out live both of us. My advice is to have your own life and wait till you can actually do something to effect a positive change. Be happy. Tomorrow will come and will have to be dealt with then.
You said your mom likes to play bridge. I wonder if the facility would work with you and allow your mom to go there to play bridge and maybe makes friends in there.
I understand your long range thinking, but could you address the immediate problems, such as pay a cleaning crew to come in and do a spring housecleaning, wash windows, etc. Start hiring a carpenter or handyman to fix the upkeep problems. Just fixing one little problem at a time might start an avalanche of repair.
You can't force your parents to move. Even if you moved for them, packed up all of their stuff and moved it to an ALF they could just dig in their heels more. And what about the sale of the house? Don't they have to be involved in that? If they're hanging onto their house by their fingernails I don't think you'd be able to sell it without their involvement.
If the house is in as bad of shape as you say it is you can call authorities. I'm not sure who but you could do a Google search. Have someone come out and take a look at how they're living. But once your parents get into 'the system', you can't unring that bell.
Or you could just let it go. Stop stressing out about it and let it go. You can't force them out by trying to convince them how wonderful it would be to live in an ALF. Do you want them living in dirty conditions? Of course not, but at this point you have no say in the matter. I know how very frustrating it can be when our parents refuse to do what's best for them but they've been doing what's best for their entire adult life and it's very difficult and scary when we, their adult children, threaten that. We want what's best for them because we love them, we don't want to see them living in filth, but trying to get them to move when they refuse might be a losing battle right now. You might need to wait for an emergency to arise to bring it up again.
Whatever you do, I'm in total favor of you not being stressed out over this. Put it on a shelf if you can and just wait for a more appropriate moment to bring it up again. I know you want what's best for your parents and you don't want to see them living that way but you may have to let it go for now.
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