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Sundowning refers to confusion that begins in the late afternoon and lasts into the night. It can cause different behaviors, some are more confused, some have increased anxiety or aggressive behaviors, some pace the floor or are more likely to wander, as some examples. It’s a common behavior with dementia. Even with my dad, who did not deal with dementia, we saw that he just enjoyed repeating old stories and reminiscing about old times in his life. There could be that also at work
Could be she just wants to talk about a pleasant trip. Typically Sundowing is agitation, confusion, pacing, anxiety. If she is not experiencing that I would not be overly concerned.
@Mikurotoro92, increased agitation and confusion should be brought to her doctor's attention and if it starts suddenly a UTI could be to blame. There are over the counter test strip you can use at home so you do not have to subject her to a doctor visit but a UTI can be dangerous and needs to be addressed quickly If it is "normal" Sundowning there are medications that can help with agitation, anxiety.
Sun downers to my understanding from my grandmother with dimentia is the evening were they will keep trying to get home the home they had as a child. They built al facilities in circle so they could walk all they wanted but never get anywhere. And never recogonize they have been there before. Sun downer can be very strong my grandmother with dimentia and a broken hip keep walking on her broken hip until they tied her to her bed... Sundowner happens in evening when as a child they would have their curfew time and must be back home.
Restrraimimg someone who is hurting themselves is very legal.. Not restrainng someone who is hurting themselves is very illegal. What the heck was that gas lightimg.or trollng ?
Its not "gaslighting" or trolling to say it's elder abuse to tie an elder to their bed. I'm sorry if you don't like the comment, but it's the truth. I knew what I was typing. Before such action is taken, the elders doctor should be consulted for guidance and advice. An elder can be sent to rehab to recover properly from a broken hip or medical devices can be attached to the bed to help cup her in place, making it very hard to get up. When we doctor our loved ones without medical training is when we can run into real trouble.
That comment about elder abuse is driving me crazy. That person did not not realize the severity of a person walking on in a broken limb that can cause blood clots and death not everyone who posts knows about what they post and can't keep there fingers from tying anyway. An apology would be be in very nice.
Mikurotoro92, regarding sundowning. My Dad had that condition and it was like he had a time-machine going back to the 1940's.
Frequently Dad would call me telling me "I won't be home his evening as the meeting ran late. I missed the last bus, so I will stay here at the hotel". Well, the hotel was actually Dad's apartment at his senior facilities. And back in the 1940's he use to take the bus to work.
I found if I played along with it, it was best for Dad.
We found giving 400 mg magnesium glycinate at around 3:30 pm or no later than 4:00 pm helped to prevent the sundowners. The glycinate version is gentle on the stomach.
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Typically Sundowing is agitation, confusion, pacing, anxiety. If she is not experiencing that I would not be overly concerned.
If it is "normal" Sundowning there are medications that can help with agitation, anxiety.
Not restrainng someone who is hurting themselves is very illegal.
What the heck was that gas lightimg.or trollng ?
In part to keep airways open.
Ready to admit iur not very knowledgeable yet.,?
Reality sucks sometimes.. but those of us not in dementia hav to live in reality even when we don't like the reality we r presented with.
:-(
Frequently Dad would call me telling me "I won't be home his evening as the meeting ran late. I missed the last bus, so I will stay here at the hotel". Well, the hotel was actually Dad's apartment at his senior facilities. And back in the 1940's he use to take the bus to work.
I found if I played along with it, it was best for Dad.