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My mother passed on August 30th. Nope. No passing “Go”. No SS check. I tend to think that since four months have 30 days then if someone passes on the 30th the check should be issued. If it had been the next month, September - it would have been paid. Crummy luck of the draw.
My mother had been beyond frugal most of her life. I swear, if she had known she’d gotten her SS check if she’d hung on another 17 hours - she would have done here darnest!
It doesn't matter what time of the month you get ur check. SS is like a job. You get paid after u do the work. I know it doesn't seem fair but June check, no matter when u receive it it, is Mays earnings. If a person dies in May and the June check still gets issued, SS will take it back.
If there are any bills pending and that check was needed to pay them, then its a debt that doesn't get paid. Family is not responsible for the debt.
Well, it's not like the person is working for that money...
Seriously, you can make the same argument for any aspect of Social Security. The start date, the end date, the monthly amount, the death benefits. What I think is unfair is that nobody is guaranteed to get out all that they put in. But it's actuarially determined. Benefits are paid a month in arrears so that the system doesn't have to try to recoup any payments made for periods after the person died. At least in the normal course. Sure, the system could probably be improved, but I think these drawbacks are minor compared to the benefits it provides. JMO.
In Canada, social programs pay in advance. Welfare cheque’s, CPP etc, are paid the last week of the month. These are the funds for the following month.
in your case are you being asked to pay back the funds received for all of May or just the last couple days?
Social security doesn’t pay in advance. Since her mom just died, she hasn’t been asked to pay back anything yet. She’s asking if May’s payment which will be deposited in June, has to be returned to social security and the answer is yes. Social security doesn’t prorate either so the entire check goes back to social security.
Sounds like this person's dispersement of payment started the month after their birth month. Depending what day of the month their birthday falls will determine when payments start. My birth day falls on the 14th, dispersement of my payments started following month.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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My mother had been beyond frugal most of her life. I swear, if she had known she’d gotten her SS check if she’d hung on another 17 hours - she would have done here darnest!
If there are any bills pending and that check was needed to pay them, then its a debt that doesn't get paid. Family is not responsible for the debt.
Seriously, you can make the same argument for any aspect of Social Security. The start date, the end date, the monthly amount, the death benefits. What I think is unfair is that nobody is guaranteed to get out all that they put in. But it's actuarially determined. Benefits are paid a month in arrears so that the system doesn't have to try to recoup any payments made for periods after the person died. At least in the normal course. Sure, the system could probably be improved, but I think these drawbacks are minor compared to the benefits it provides. JMO.
in your case are you being asked to pay back the funds received for all of May or just the last couple days?
Depending what day of the month their birthday falls will determine when payments start.
My birth day falls on the 14th, dispersement of my payments started following month.