When my 84 y.o. relative moved in I thought it was reasonable to assume that she would not go into our rooms since there is nothing there that is hers. Wrong assumption. She started it after a few months.
Growing up and as adults her family had no boundaries. So she expects me to have no boundaries. In her mind...it was ok for us to go downstairs into her rooms anytime so...therefore it should be ok for her to do that with our space. She views it as horrible when she hears of an elderly person being restricted from going into the host family bedrooms.
First I tried removing everything in our area of the house that she would use like cleaning supplies or anything else. Then I asked her to stop. She didn't...decided to dry mop our hardwood floors so she could open our doors and snoop. Finally, I locked the bedroom doors...huge drama...I don't trust her etc....then she promised not to go into the bedrooms again. I did not mention it again.
This week, four years later, I felt that this was going on again and found out that not only was she going into our bedroom, she was going through our stuff when I wasn't home--left video cam on in the room for the short time I was gone. She does not have dementia or Alzheimer.
She is only left alone for 30 min when I take my adult child to work and 30 min when I take him home once a week. This has become her time to get into our rooms and stuff. I can't take her with us on these trips because my adult child does not want to ride in the care with her...and her constant questions would set my adult child up for anxiety and a bad day at work...it just is not possible.
I don't know what to do about this. I feel violated. I am trying to think of a no drama way to stop this behavior since she has high blood pressure and it goes up immediately when she gets upset, but she obviously lied to me and has decided she will put on a show of respecting our privacy when we are home and then when we are out, she can do whatever she wants.
I feel like a prisoner in my house. I feel like I can't go out and get things done with my adult child who is disabled...I need to be training and working with my child. It makes me feel insecure because I don't know what is happening with my things.
She is nearly 89 and has had a stroke a couple of years ago and is a very difficult person to have in our home for so many reasons. She is here because she really did not have the money to go into a retirement place and she could no longer do the upkeep with her townhome and frankly was not making ends meet. She is not renting from us or anything...then she would be back to not making ends meet.
I feel it is a small thing to ask for privacy given this is about all I have asked her to do. I am wearing out for many reasons. Seeing her paw through our stuff just put me over the edge. I never ever go through any of her stuff. When she is out at the beauty shop no one disturbs her things ever. But she feels it is her right? as a member of the household to do this?
How do I stop this behavior or what can I do with this? She doesn't break things or steal things that I know of but I can't stand this.
" Yes, this is a serious thing when the house has autism...so yes...seriously.." ... you
" It is just too much to have someone going through my things as wimpy as that sounded to the first replier." ... you
So, Mewlan, I am the first replier and I'd like to share that it was never my intention to imply that you were acting in a wimpy manner. I'm afraid you misinterpreted the first sentence of my answer, quoted above in this response, which was intended to convey surprise that anyone you would offer your home to, as you have, would be havin such a way. And then, as the remaining six paragraphs suggest what I thought was very sensitive way of handling your relative in a way that would cause both you and her the most minimal amount of stress.
After psychological training, I participated as a volunteer call receiver for a helpline/suicide prevention center for 5 years. Two of the primary things one learns is "Active Listening" & NEVER to blame the victim, so I beg you not to take what I'm going to say next as an attack on you. You obviously came here for needed support but you started out by not posting all of the pertinent details. I'm sure you didn't purposely mean to be vague, but why not refer to this lady who is living in your house as what she is, grandmother, aunt, cousin, mother in law, etc. rather than "relative" and "she", leaving us guessing. And that this lady upsets your "adult child" whom we discover, as we read on, is a "he" and is "disabled", then learn only in your second post that the issue for the "he" who is apparently your son is autism, which sheds a completely different light on your relatives who is disturbing him.
While your first post indicated your primary concern was the clear invasion of your privacy. My opinion and that of many others was that it had to stop, and there were many suggestions of how to do that. But we were rather much stabbing in the dark with what I think or mild suggestions for what sounded like a mild problem.
However, in your second post, we see a much more serious portrait of what's going on and how harmful this is to your family structure. In addition to caring now and laying down future plans for your adult autistic son, you have experienced an array of illness and death that in and of itself would be enough for anyone human being to deal with. On top of that, you've had surgery that seems to have gone bad and left you with nerve damage (what? possibly neuromas?) that need to be treated with pain medication.
Thru all of that, you have bent over backwards in the most kind of ways and opened your home to your Madame X, who has not respected your privacy or your boundaries (and never did, apparently), as well as practicing unsanitary home care habits as she undoubtedly believes she is attempting to help.
You only need refer to my profile to find my history of experience with dementia. On that basis, I'm going to somewhat disagree with the fact that Madame knows she's doing wrong because she only does it when you're gone. I do believe if you would get her evaluated by a neuropsychiatrist, you would find some level of dementia, possibly even vascular dementia left over from the stroke. It is also fairly common for pre and post stroke patients to have TIAs, which can further damage the brain.
What I'm really wanting you to understand from my post here is that with your new information given only secondarily, I feel this situation is much more critical for your own personal sanity then you made it sound in the first post. I will also say that I completely misunderstood your reference to Madame living downstairs as being a separate apartment, which I now understand with an incorrect assumption.
Now, I would suggest that your next move is her evaluation ASAP, to discover her honest condition and find out in your heart of hearts if you're able to continue doing with it. You have been a good caretaker so far, for as long as you've been able to, but there is no shame in seeking placement. If she is evaluated as not being able to live alone because of some type of dementia or memory loss. In her financial situation, as you have described it, she should be eligible for Medicaid, which will pay for memory care.
It is pretty clear to me that you and your son are in crisis over this situation. I know it's very difficult to step back and say I can't do this anymore when you have made the previous commitment to care take. Folks on this forum go through this every day. Ones who have promised their loved one to keep them at home many times come to the fork in the road and realize that they have to "break their word" and place the patient in a facility. It causes grief and anguish, and many times guilt. But the truth is, when you made a promise, you had no idea how bad it would get, how hard it would be, or what other things you would be experiencing in your life.
As I have said many times before, when you put someone in a facility, if you are still over seeing their care (which is very good to plan on, because all seniors need a caring advocate, IMO), there will be plenty of work to keep you busy at the administrative level but you will no longer be exhausting yourself with either physical care or emotional worries that you have when someone is living under your roof.
I don't believe there's anything wimpy about what you have done or gone through. imeone, a comedian I think, said that growing old isn't for cowards. Well, neither is caretaking. It is a relatively thankless job and labor of love. Only each individual can know inside themselves when you have reached your limit.
Invite her into your home, give her some cookies and chamomile tea, make sure you yourself are in a calm moment. Don't allow what you're about to do, or her reaction to it, to accelerate any reactions on your part.
Be easy with it and stay calm yourself when you tell her that you are going to lock your home when you aren't there and she will have to stay in her apartment.
If she questions you about not being trusted, simply pull out the nanny cam and play it for her. Calmly explain that you care about her, which is why you let her stay in the apartment, but that you can't have your space violated in this way.
Tell her she will still be welcome anytime you're home but that she will have to go to her apartment whenever you need to leave.
Ether get her key back if you think she hasn't made a duplicate or just quietly change the locks.
Don't make a fuss or drama even if she does. She could be in stages of pre-dementia that wouldn't yet be diagnosable. Her actions are unreasonable and you have already tried the normal way to get her to stop. It sounds to me as if her logic and reasoning are impaired, but you don't have to address that right now.
(How do I stop this behavior )
(She does not have dementia or Alzheimer.)
(She is nearly 89 and has had a stroke a couple of years ago and is a very difficult person ).
By reading this story as any other story is messing more information to give the best advice.As lack of information.With the information provided by this Op.It sounds like,the OP isn't realizing that their "89" yr old relative has medical issues.Or denying the fact that their relative may just have dementia or Alzheimer's.If the OP would reread and realize what he/she as stated about their relative would bring lite to finding the real problem.
As placing these puzzle pieces together in this OP story shows there is signs of dementia or Alzheimer's that could be the main factor of the problems.Again,there is alot of messing information that wasn't provided to give the best advice.
With that said,
I'm speaking to the OP of this story,
You said,(How do I stop this behavior ).You realized there is a behavior that's the first step is realizing this.
Next,you said,(She is nearly 89 and has had a stroke a couple of years ago and is a very difficult person ).You realized your relative is "89 yrs old",Had a stroke and is a very difficult person .To me,these are all signs of dementia or Alzheimer's .The main reason why I say these are signs is because,she's 89 years old.The other reasons is because,the relative has change in behavior and a difficult person .At that age of 89 you need to take this relative to her doctor and explain to her doctor what is going on.Just because,the relative hasn't ever been diagnosed for dementia or Alzheimer's doesn't mean the relative doesn't have it.Just means never been diagnosed yet.This can also,be signs of a Mental breakdown (also known as a nervous breakdown) causing this relative to go thru your things.Is it possible that your relative is seeking to find her messing items?Maybe the relative is messing items.You need to seat down with your relative and bring all this out in the open.It takes two to work things out.You said,you have video cam of the relative searching thru things in your home.Show the video to this relative and put the relative on the spot see what he/she says about it.
At the age of "89" I'm sure he/she has dementia or Alzheimer's .If this was a horse race I would place all my money on that horse named "Dementia".
You need to have this person checked out by their doctor before accusing.There's reasons why.
Best,
It might not hurt for your relative to be reminded that there are other places besides your home that she might find herself living in, as well.
Strokes can cause so many behaviors which are hard to diagnose. Your first thing would be to get her (and I'm going to assume it is a "her") evaluated by her primary doctor or a geriatric doctor who specializes in the elderly. And there may be something else wrong physically. It has been shown that elderly can be sneaky. The fact that she waits until you are out of the home to snoop is a red flag. So does she really know what she is doing or is she bored or just looking for something to do. No matter what, she has overstepped her boundaries by entering your private quarters. Yes, locking the doors can be a solution, but do you also want to use a key every time you want to go into your bedroom for something? Should not be necessary. If she owns the townhome and has equity (another unknown) make arrangements to sell it, look for an assisted living place and use the proceeds to fund her stay and when the funds run out, she can become a Medicaid recipient. Check with your local or county office for the elderly and ask for their help. Your son and his disability is your most important charge in life along with your own health. If you are not healthy, you are no good to anyone and then they all lose and you the most. Bless you for being the kind of person who cares. You are a caregiver with a heart of compassion, but I can read from your post, you are just about out of energy. You definitely need a break and having a week or so of respite is in order. If I was there I'd come in a heartbeat. Could you have her go to her townhome with a caregiver staying with her for a few days - another option if you can manage it. Again, I urge you to take care of yourself first and reclaim your life and health. Hugs.
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