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My mom passed recently after 62 years of marriage to my dad. My brothers and I had just moved them into the independent part of a senior living facility, one that provides meals and transportation. It's only been 6 weeks since mom passed but my dad is driving me crazy. I try to get by to see him 3 times per week (my brothers live 4+ hours away), bring him groceries or left overs. While I'm there I sort out his pills, straighten up (even though there is maid service) and try and handle other issues.


I've tried set boundaries but he calls me constantly because he's lonely and his moods are often exacerbated by alcohol. Tonight he called for me to spend the night so I could make sure he got up in time to make it to the doctor's appointment I'm taking him too!


When I try to set limits, he claims to not remember or apologies.


I'm trying to be patient. He rarely goes down for dinner or participates with other residents, no matter how much I remind him. I'm so stressed and now it's affecting my 32 year marriage. How do I force him to interact and rely on the services we are paying for than relying on me all of the time?

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You can't force dad to do anything. He can't force you to do anything.

So now what? There's alcohol involved, and when that happens, it's never good. Alcohol can affect his memory. Decide that you are not going to interact with him when he's been drinking. Tell him that.

If you step back, he may be more likely to go to dinner. If you stop taking him food and groceries, that would also incentivize him to go to the dining room where the food is. Also, don't spend the night there - tell him you need to be with your husband, which is the truth.

Sometimes the bereaved husband (or divorced husband) tries to pull the daughter into the position of surrogate wife. Right now you're doing a lot of things that his wife would have done for him. It's not a good dynamic for either one of you, so good luck in taking your relationship with dad in a different direction.
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I’m so sorry for the loss of your mother .
Has Dad seen a grief counselor ?
You have to sort his pills for him and he drinks alcohol? He should not drink . Alcohol is a depressant .
Sleeping over is ridiculous , you can call him to wake him up , and set an alarm clock.
You stated “ we pay” . I hope Dad is using his own funds for his care and not his children’s money .
DO NOT answer every call . Let them go to voice mail . You can listen and return call once a day .
Back off , only visit once or twice a week . Don’t be the maid , just be the daughter visiting .
You can’t force him to go to the dining room . He may not be ready for that yet , let him grieve .
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funkygrandma59 Mar 8, 2024
Waytomisery, you seem to be the only one so far to point out that the OP did say in her last sentence that " services that we are paying for." I caught that too and was going to call that out in hopes that the OP and her husband are NOT paying for her fathers independent living facility out of their own pockets, but the way it's worded it certainly sounds like that is the case. I hope I am wrong.
But bottom line, if father is so dependent on his daughter, he is no longer independent and needs to get moved to an assisted living facility, where he will receive the care he requires and can give his daughter a much needed break.
The OP and her father both need time to grieve.
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Dianne, I would find a grief share group and take dad. He is mourning the loss of his lifetime partner and the life he knew, all in the midst of a move to a facility. That's a lot to deal with, he needs help navigating this new, unknown life.

I am so sorry for the loss of your mom. May The Lord give you and dad grieving mercies, strength, comfort and guidance during this new season in life.
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MAYDAY Mar 8, 2024
Maybe the facility offers grieving therapy group sessions.
it won’t hurt to ask
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If your mom died in hospice, have your dad set up with their chaplain or social worker. They will provide interaction with him as well
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Talk to the director or administrative person and see if you can get him a job like helping with games, watering plants, getting mr so'n'so to dinner. When my daddy was in a facility and able to walk around, I talked to the game director and asked if my daddy could pass out the game pieces or collect them so he could be in charge of something - anything. Give him a reason to leave the room.
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Clearly independent living is no longer working; he isn't independent.
It is time to discuss with your dad the fact that you cannot be "on-call" for him, and you cannot continue to be there three times a week. That therefore a move to ALF is appropriate for him.
If he will not do that, you need to make it clear to him that he is on his own, and will be needing to hire help. "Independent" is "independent". The enabling this can not go on and on; you are stressed and it is putting stress and pressure on your marriage.
Make clear this isn't an option for your father anymore.

You CAN and SHOULD do this gently; your father has sustained a loss he may not long survive; that's a fact. But the move to ALF may just help him. He may stop all the self-medicating with alcohol (though if he is an alcoholic he will not).
He will have friends and activity.

This is up to you. As long as you remain easily manipulated you will be manipulated, and there will be no thanks for your help; it will simply be expected.
This is up to you.
No one can do it for you.

Children of elders often take up caregiving to the extent they feel responsible for the "happiness" and "satisfaction" of their parents. They become not children, but caregivers. When in life was your father always "happy". And why do we think that end of life, of all times filled with loss, is about "happy". It isn't. Stop expecting it to be.

I am so sorry for your recent loss of your Mom. But this isn't sustainable.
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He now needs an AL. If he was married 62 yrs then he is in his 80s. Going to be hard to change him.
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I was driving my daughter crazy. Still am..
it’s kinda crazy because not only did I lose my husband, she in turn lost her dad and had to keep it together around me and see me grieve..she was comforting me.. she planned the services. She arranged everything. I texted her the other day. I had myself a pity party..I need to stop drinking. I was completely out of it the following day..
everyone asked what I was going to do after he died. I replied that I was going to sleep. I haven’t done much..
ostrich syndrome.
I’m younger than your dad, but everyone grieves in their own way. Hes in independent living. Can you hire a caregiver to come in and take him for a walk..get him acclimated to going to the dining hall. Does this place have caregivers for hire a couple hours a week? He needs someone, other than you, to walk him to the dining hall, get him into social activities in the facility, get him to the exercise class.
check into that. See if that works. Hiring a caregiver a couple hours a week is very helpful for my friend’s husband..just until he is through his grieving stage and dependency on you..
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I think he needs to move up to assisted living. They will sort his pills.

You have to set boundaries. Stop answering the phone so often. Maybe set a time for phone calls. Visit only twice a week, maybe take him to lunch one of those days so he has something to look forward to.

When my father lived on his own, I would visit once every other week to take him grocery shopping. He'd call often and the first words out of his mouth were always "I've got a problem...." Never asked how I was. Always finding an excuse to get me there more often.
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The caregiver can set up the pills and etc. maybe use the caregiver with two days a week, and you go one day a week.
mull it over.. tell dad you are getting him a caregiver to get through this hard time, but you still go over once a week to dine with him in the dining room.
Bring your husband along. It’s no picnic , and it’s hard on you too, but together, you snd husband can get your dad through this. With a caregiver on board it may go more smoothly. He didn’t need one 24/7.. just a couple hours a couple days a week, and then you & your husband go on a Saturday or Sunday.
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