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I've been reading a bit through the 'questions' and 'discussion' sections on this site and had to register to throw this out and see what comes back ...

It seems the care of a difficult aging parent goes on and on and on. It never stops. It gets better than worse off and on almost nonstop and so many people on this site have given up so much of their lives to care for parents who weren't even necessarily good parents when they had the cognitive abilities.

I don't want to go down that road. I don't want to lose my life to a mother who essentially made her own choices to get where she is now (financially and health wise) and continues to think that someone else is responsible for her life.

I am 42, living in California and trying to deal with my 66 yr old mother in Idaho who is more like an 86 yr old (physically and mentally). She has always been a selfish person, critical and judgmental of most people but me (now I am the one receiving her negativity), she is bipolar, and the doctors believe she has early dementia showing. She also has no friends or family around and no financial resources.
She recently lost her husband to cancer and neither of them did anything to prepare for his future when they knew his time was limited, despite the fact that they were both well enough to put a plan together and I urged them constantly.

I am tired and do not even want to help this person who fights my help. I have tried to help from a far and have made trips to help that went nowhere. I was up there when my stepdad passed and my mother is in denial that she does not have enough money coming in to even pay her bills, let alone live and she argues with me about everything after saying she needs help. Because it's not a definite diagnosis or dementia - the doctors cannot force her into care.
I met a nice lady while I was up there - introduced through an elder care lawyer - she works as a guardian and she's been trying to get her foot in the door to help mom.
Bottom line - mom will have a little death benefit money coming her way and I feel the little sanity I have left is telling me to let mom fail on her own (not be able to pay bills, etc) and realize she is alone so she has to retain this persons assistance.
It seems so cruel, but I can't see giving any more of my life to this person who was never a great mother - her choices all along in life have put emotional, mental, and now financial burdens on her own child. I just can't imagine a child is meant to take this.
Please advise.

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Geez! I meant progression!! Auto correct, argh!
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Jenni, know that 1) things will get messier for a while. It's like deciding to organize a closet. You realize that 20 other things need to happen first, lol.
2) however this is resolved, both for your mother and for yourself, you'll see in hindsight that it was the natural profession of so many things.
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Thanks ba8alou - unfortunately this is the same person that the elder care attorney had originally referred me to as a possible asset moving forward. Ugh.
This is all getting messier and messier. I'm to the point where I would welcome a guardian to take over, but I'd rather it be from the local not-for-profit guardians in the area where mom is (Boise) and not this for profit individual.
I was able to speak to the nice social worker appointed from the Doctors office and she at least reassured me that if this woman goes to court to obtain guardianship on her own accord that it would not be easy and the courts would want to know my opinion on the matter.
I just got off another hard call with mom - she's just so selfish in ways that existed way before her bipolar/mental illness/ possible early dementia stuff and it really, really makes me want to walk away and change my phone number. I don't know how much more I can take before I say goodbye.
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Advice plain and simple-You are making the right decisions. Your last two sentences in your posting said it all.
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Call mom's elder care attorney, if s/he is someone you trust and explain your concerns about this person being appointed guardian. Something about the "she would be obligated to go to the court a file for guardianship" doesn't sound kosher to me.
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Let's see if I can keep this brief. This post will be choppy, but stick with me as there's a question at the end ...
Mom Okayed me to talk to her doctors, then (before I could speak to them today) she changed her mind. She's obviously trying to hide a bigger truth about her health.
I let her know I am NOT doing anything else for her until I can speak to her doctors office. ...They had started sending out a social worker last week and I told her I couldn't ask them what led to that unless I could speak to them. All mom cares about right now (despite my hours working on her messed up financial and living situation) is her lawns. The social worker mentioned some possible yard help to mom when she was out there last week and now I can't follow up to get what those leads were.
In the middle of all this, the 'professional guardian' I met when I was out there a few weeks back called today and when I explained the situation, she said she'd give it a couple of days max, but if things didn't get straightened out with her doctors and I could no longer care for mom, she has a legal obligation to go to the court to file for guardianship. I wish I could be happy about this (weight off my shoulders), but this woman kind of disappeared last week after saying she'd help with something and I don't want a 'flake' to be in charge of mom if all she wants is to end up making a few bucks out of the death benefit money mom will be receiving soon. I liked this woman at first - but she kind of let me and mom down a bit.
Question - how much would the court weigh my opinion if this woman wanted to step in to be her guardian and I was opposed???
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Hugs to you Jenn, a lot of people are having difficulties dealing with loved ones or parents who are not cooperating when it comes to their care. It is indeed very hard, and it may take toll on your emotional and personal life. If you think you have done everything to help her and she is still refusing your help, it may be time for your to give yourself a break. If she is already showing signs of dementia and she has some mental issues, then what she need is professional help, luckily, Idaho has a state plan for Alzheimer’s disease and other types of dementia. You can do some research and get more information about long-term care in Idaho, may be she can qualify for some state long-term care programs, http://www.infolongtermcare.org/state-long-term-care-information/idaho/ has provided the links where you can get information about long-term care in Idaho. They have the Idaho Alzheimer's planning group which may be able to help your mom. Remember that you also need to care for yourself and your family, it may be heart breaking to see your mom faced these difficulties but it would be better to know that she is in a place where she can get the help she needed.
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Sounds like my Mom. Even when we lived with her so she had 24/7 care of her home and property(rental units, farm land, 4 hours of mowing, snow removal etc) and a 24/7 nurse for her severe congestive heart failure....she was rotten, wouldn't engage with us at meals, watch TV or even take part in the holidays when we had our family come for a feast, to see her. She's spoiled and will NOT do anything but what she wants....at this time I am not speaking with her. Last time we spoke she complained about everything "health related" and she makes her own bed (eats a McD's, drinks alcohol every day, you get the picture) so let her lay in it. I kept putting my life on hold for her and she NEVER has appreciated it. "Oh, I don't need you to do anything for me" (yeah, right) Every minute...I need phone time on my cell phone, I need pictures taken off my phone, I need you to make out a new form for the rental property, see about the tax assessment increase,it just never ends.
It's difficult (especially being a nurse) to just let things go and let life happen to her. BUT, she has her own mind...let her use it. Something will happen eventually. Just make sure you get her to do some basic paperwork if you can before you disengage. If you want a list of those, write me:)
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Jenni, I want to add my appreciation to others' of the way you're handling this. You are one bright, compassionate, level-headed lady.

Interesting, how you think Ba8alou (I agree with you, btw!) is not cold-hearted but you feel that you are! That made me give a long "hmmmmmmmmm…"

Recently my eye was caught by a single phrase on Christine Ann Lawson's book about borderline mothers, namely "…how to care for the waif without rescuing her…" I hadn't thought of my mother as being anything but depressed (and possibly emotionally abused) before, but somehow that phrase set off a loud alarm bell in my head. The serial catastrophes. The helplessness. The crippled relationships. The dread of people. The 'poor me' apathy. The assumption that something or someone will always intercede on her behalf.

Well, the book is on order. If it contains any tips that you don't already seem to have thought of, I'll pass them on!
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Jenn my mother is dying, in a wonderful NH at age 88. She's had a wonderful life filled with the best, more than anyone could ever hope for. She's been an evil, manipulative narcissist her whole life and I have no feeling for her at all.

It's been a long day and I'll go to bed early. I'll take the phone off the hook as I don't want a call from the NH (again) that she's fallen out of bed, no harm done, just letting you know - in the middle of the night. I need sleep!.
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Thanks again all. Today's gem is her repeating "I didn't know I'd have to be the one to do all of this" when I ask for her to simply call one of the many places I've already been in touch with to give them a verbal authorization to speak with me as I do all the actual work. (Such a pain - some places don't think seeing the original POA is enough!)
...I wanted to yell (but didn't) ...Why don't you think you have to take ANY responsibility for your mess of a life?!?!
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hugs jenni we all understand here!! do whats best for you now you cant help someone who refuses to help themselves you can only do so much without cracking!!
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Jenni, think about your own exit plan. Your own timeline for when you will walk away.
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Jenn my mother was a total tyrant and made out to everyone (including me) that she wore the trousers and ran everything. My father, knowing his time was near, put post it notes on the frig as to when certain bills had to be paid. When he died she had no idea of even how to licence the car. All bills were set up for her on direct debit so she no longer had to bother. As she receives an old age pension her take was "the government pays for everything" ... sigh.

She insisted on a big fancy house which she couldn't really afford to keep, never having the AC on and putting heat on for just a few hours a day, even in the depths of winter, just so she could look like Mrs. Rich B*tch to the world - and she had no friends, nor did she associate with the neighbours, so no-one cared.

Once your mother has an alternative place to live she'll realize she can't afford the lifestyle she wants she'll fall flat on her face and the authorities will step in. So be it. You've done all you possibly can do..
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Your doing the right thing jenni4jo, your mom will be ok and will be able to get assistance if she needs it. I cant add much but take care for yourself and I always hear and say " the one day at a time " thing too... with mixed emotion. ( depends on the situation) Hugs and good luck
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Thank you all for your words of encouragement and advice. Mother has been less resistant and hostile the past couple of days, but I'm sure there will be plenty more 'ups and downs' before I even get her set up in a new place to live. The hardest part now is getting her to see just how dire her financial situation is and understanding that her husbands death benefit money will need to go toward paying off bills, movers, helpers, and a new place to live - and she will NOT have financial reserves after that all happens. 'One day at a time' is what I keep hearing, but I fear this will be 'one day at a time' forever. Ugh.
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Well my parents moved from the East to the West after they got married. Who took care of their parents? The other siblings ans spouses. I lost the privlige to grow up and know grandmas and grandpas.Give your mom a short call once a week, say hi, i have chores to do , but just called to say hello. Have a good day. love ya. Call you next week. see ya later. Lots of familys fall out of love, hubs wifes, kids, cats, dogs, birds, etc. Maybe one day you will find common ground again.. Maybe she just wants a sounding board...listen. Im learning, I dodn't listen much sorry. I try before ambien kicks in. tkae care. The one thing I am learning or trying to is to type while on amibian. it down'st go very well. l you know eye coorditnatnion thing just kind of leavesssssss.-escpecially with the cat jumping on the desk watching you. freaky., well he is sort of asleep.. one day at a time. take a walk. and if you can stand it, ask her to jolin you for a 5 minute walk. if she gets really bad, ditch her. cant be too far, can it? ") Kidding
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Jennifer, good for you. You did your homework and made a decision. It 's more than many of us did when we "signed up" for caregiving and gave up our lives in the process.
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Amen to the advice and especially to two statements you made.

"I feel like if I ignore my own line in the sand and continue to try to help her anyway, I will just become a martyr and an enabler." Yes. There can be a fine line between helping and enabling. Stay on the helping side - which in your case may be doing nothing and letting things unfold. Perhaps things will change in the future so that you actually can help - if you want too and under your terms, and perhaps not.

"I just feel so horrible and sad beyond words about the dark and scary road that I feel I am letting her go down." I know the feeling with my own mother other than I know it is not a matter of me letting her go down it, as she obstinately refuses other courses of action. Dear one, I doubt that you could stop her going down her chosen road. Professionals are involved and will become more involved and that is the best way for her and for you. She, like my mother, is experiencing the consequences of a lifetime of choices - sometimes very bad ones - but they were her choices to make. It is sad and it has been sad in the past, to see the havoc she has wreaked, and now continues to in her own life more than in the life of others. But we could not fix it then and we cannot fix it now.

If you were hit by a bus tomorrow your mother would be looked after. Do no further damage to yourself. Get on with your life and let her get on with hers.
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Jenn "selfish and expected people to do everything for her and do it her way.", yep that was my mother to a T. If people didn't run after and do for her narcissistic self she was so very evil and she hated the neighbours wherever she lived. The last but one house she lived in she couldn't stand the neighbour's husband because he was OMG BLACK! Changed her tune when he started shoveling the snow on her driveway. One time that house was pelted with eggs and it wasn't even halloween so she must have severely pissed someone off.

She lived in the last house for 12 years, the last 4 years of which I lived there to care for her. The next door neighbour, Margaret, was a single early retired school teacher who my mother always referred to as "Old Fancy Pants". It so irked me I one day took her to task. The reason for her hatred of this woman? "She never offered to help me". Well toots, she sees you all dressed up going out in your care and walking your dog, you don't look like you need help. "Never mind, she should have offered because I'm old". Sigh, most all the neighbours were very old, some in wheelchairs.

I got to know Margaret in passing and she was a lovely person. On hearing she had breast cancer I popped a note in her door offering help if needed. She had family and a lot of friends who took turns driving her to chemo. First time I drove her I used my mother's car - I got "she's got a damn nerve using MY CAR!". After that we used my van (a bit dog hairy but Margaret had no allergies) and I got "She's got a damned nerve calling you and saying I want you here and there". Excuse me? I lived in the (freezing) basement and had my own phone line , Margaret would call occasionally and ask how I was fixed for a certain day.

Margaret eventually passed away. I went to her memorial service, taking an elderly neighbour with me. My mother refused to go - "Just tell them I'm not feeling well". I could go on and on for hours describing my mother's life time of being evil, including knocking me around when I was about 6 and putting me in a hospital.

Sher's in a nursing home now. I was so ill last winter with the daily screaming tantrum phone calls and other hell she could create that I had a black out driving my truck at 85kmh and changed my phone number.

I bear so many emotional scars which will never heal - it's like having PTSD for life. She's now in a nursing home, just a shell with Parkinsons, strokes and dementia. My grandparents went really fast yet Mommie Dearest has to linger. One friend said to me that it's karrma - she has to pay in some way for her life time of evil. I don't know. I pay her bills and visit weekly to ensure she has all she needs but I finally have some peace - she can't get at me any more.

I'm rambling but bottom line. you can't help someone who won't be helped, is always right and fights you every inch of the way. You have done the very best by her and you must not feel guilty. When she falls on her face, unable to pay bills or whatever the state will step in. Let her get on with it. It's her choice and she must live with it. You cannot protect someone from themselves!
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I think you should hold your ground. I just get the feeling you may be overestimating her capacities. Some people just choose to drive off the cliff and figuratively speaking, she may just do that.
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Thank you both for your comments
vegaslady - Luckily for mom, she is still cognitive enough to know what is going on, just very clueless about money and in denial about her abilities. It won't be long (1-2 weeks) before her finances catch up to her and luckily the caseworker/professional guardian person will continue to check in on mom despite not heaving received one red cent as of yet.
ba8alou - I don't judge you as cold-hearted, yet I judge myself to be so for agreeing with your sentiments. If this was my father ---- I would do anything for him should the time ever come as he's been an actual parent and has taken care of his health and finances. Mom has never done that and has always (all her life) been selfish and expected people to do everything for her and do it her way. The latest in our drama was her refusing to let her doctors talk to me about her health despite me informing her several times that I would only help her navigate what's next in life if she was completely open and transparent with whatever I felt I needed to look after her from out of state. I feel like if I ignore my own line in the sand and continue to try to help her anyway, I will just become a martyr and an enabler.
I just feel so horrible and sad beyond words about the dark and scary road that I feel I am letting her go down.
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I sympathize with you. The one thing where it probably won't go the way you're thinking is that when mom falls on her face that she'll realize that she needs this person's help. She's more likely to not recognize what she needs, and be unable to take the steps she needs to at this late stage in life. I would guess that she is more likely to eventually come to the attention of APS and have a legal guardian appointed for her. And that's okay.
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Jenn; I'm going to chime in first here. Anyone on this board will tell you that I'm a bit cold hearted when it comes to uncooperative, noncompliant, non-planning patients. I think that folks with personality disorders and mental illness are best cared for by professionals. I don't think that you are in any sense kicking your mom to the curb by allowing her to continue her downward spiral toward becoming a ward. It's just what she needs.
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