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I recently brought my mother to the United States in May 2024 and she has since been living with my grandmother-in-law in her home. She is not working right now as she is still waiting for her work permit. She cooks daily for my grandmother-in-law (breakfast, lunch, and dinner), she cleans the house nearly every other day, and even helps grandmother-in-law vacuum her bedroom. Oftentimes, grandmother-in-law (who is 76) has ended up in the emergency room because of her dietary habits and stubborn nature (she binges on candy, processed food, and other things when my mother is not home) leading to health emergencies. She doesn't like to own up to her mistakes and often downplays things, not taking any responsibility. I am starting to feel very bad for my mother for putting her in this position of a fulltime caregiver. This is not what I intended. I feel her kindness is being abused and taken advantage of. Grandmother-in-law almost expects it now every single day, and when she is not around to feed her, she eats junk and has a health crisis, leading the whole family to the hospital. We end up staying the whole day, taking time out of weekends and sometimes our work.
Grandmother-in-law has 4 daughters. 3 daughters are pretty much out of the picture and have detached themselves completely from her due to a bad relationship and history. One of her daughters is around and sometimes helps out, only when we call her or try to involve her. But never truly willingly. While I understand that it may be difficult for her to take full responsibility for her mother, it should not be MY mother doing everything for my grandmother-in-law. It is exhausting her and she feels it is unfair that her daughter is not around more often to help with cooking and cleaning for her own mother. There seems to be some tension between the mother and daughter, I think grandmother-in-law doesn't like asking too much from her daughter for fear she will refuse or feel upset and overwhelmed, which she often does become. She has told us she doesn't like to burden her daughter.... Grandmother-in-law can no longer drive and often asks my mom to drive her for grocery shopping or to clinic appointments. She also refuses to cook for herself and hasn't done so in 30 plus years since her husband passed away. Daughter has started attending some of these appointments recently, but in all honesty, I feel like she could be doing a lot more. Her daughter has recently expressed wanting to help out more, but I don't know how serious she is. We often have to nudge her to help out more, and we don't like confronting her like this when she should already know how much she needs to do. I feel there is a sense of entitlement here, for some reason. And also a lack of appreciation for my mom. The daughter has told me that my mom is not expected to cook or clean for her mom every day, however, if she doesn't, then who will? Nobody.
Can anyone please help me and suggest some ways to lessen the load on my mom and encourage the daughter to step up more without upsetting or overwhelming her? She has her own life, work, and husband, but I still feel like she needs to do more, maybe after work, or on her days off. The workload is not very balanced currently and my mom is feeling exhausted and upset, and so am I. Please help.

I think that the daughters have made the correct decision.
Their stepping in to do care will mean that the grandmother doesn't get the placement she should have.
You cannot decide things for other people. As you can see, deciding what is right for your own mother hasn't worked out well here.
It is best in daily life that we decide for ourselves what we can do/what we WISH to do, and then do it without thought to what others should do.
Your mother, by leaving her own country, has made herself vulnerable in THIS country in a number of ways. As this was something you enabled it makes you partly responsible for that, so I would see to it that she resigns from this caregiving and that you concentrate on her; she is the one you brought here.

Let family members know that she won't be doing the caregiving and supply them a date.
They should meet and come to some unified conclusion how things will go regarding grandmother in the future, and then TOGETHER go to the grandmother to explain the new situation and how it should be handled.
Wishing you the best.
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CactusCat Nov 11, 2024
Yes, I do feel bad for my part in this. I knew how grandmother-in-law was, I knew how she never cooked or cleaned for herself, yet I put my mum to live with her, which led to her doing everything for her. The thing I don't understand is why her daughter won't help out more? It is her own mother. Surely she should take more responsibility? Doesn't she feel bad that my mother is doing so much? Why does nobody really care? I can try to persuade my mom to come and live with me in my new house but my mom always does a lot of housework and I don't want her to assume another caregiver role if she lives with me. Cooking, cleaning, etc. It makes me feel very, very bad. Especially when she tells me how she feels.
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What did you think would happen when you moved your mother from another country into the home of a needy, stubborn, ornery senior in poor health?

Did you think she wasn't going to become a care slave to your GMIL? For God's sake, grow up.

There definitely is some entitlement here and I'm sure it's not unfounded.
Does your mother pay rent to your GMIL to live in her house? If the answer to that question is 'no' then your GMIL has every right to expect her to earn her keep. She does not however have to live with being treated badly or worked to death.

So, it's time for you to make room for your mother (who you brought here) at your house. Or find her another living situation. Or send her back home to her country. You facilitated this mess and it's your responsibility to clean it up. So stop complaining, stop looking for pity because you have anxiety and depression (who doesn't?) and get your mother moved out of your GMIL's house.
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Your mother is an adult capable of making the decision to leave this situation to either live with you or go back to the UK .

I hope your mother leaves the situation since it’s not working out . Try to talk to your mother and tell her that it’s OK for her to say she can not live with or care for this grandmother in law anymore .

All caregivers have a limit . Tell Mom it’s ok . She doesn’t have to stay in this role .
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AlvaDeer Nov 13, 2024
I think yours is really the best solution. Unfortunately, mother has given up her living circumstances back home, but back home is where her life, her friends, her home was. She is now in quite an unhappy situation. I think she should be assisted FULLY in returning home.
As daughter was quite responsible in putting this in place I think she is also responsible to fix it for her mother, and return it to where it all began.
It's very difficult living continents apart, but certainly better than the current situation.
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Cactus

You have painted a picture of an industrious self sufficient mother. Educated and thrifty. Used to earning her own way.

Your mother probably had a pretty good idea of who the GM was before she made the deal to move in and help her out in exchange for a place to stay.

I’m sure that you told your mom all about how unreasonable etc GM was while you were living there.

It was evidently still attractive to your mom as a means to an end. It truly isn’t any of your mom’s business (or yours) as to how much interface the GM has with her daughters.

My take on this. Get yourself out of the way and let them work this out. It’s really between GM and your mom.

You chose to live with GM for two years. Those four daughters had to live with her many years. Your mom has barely been there 6 mos. Tell mom to let you know when she’s ready to quit and you will help her relocate.

Otherwise, step away and let them learn to manage their own relationship. If it has a chance of working, it will get there sooner. If not, it will get there sooner.

Your SIL is very kind to even tell you she would like to help more. She probably appreciates your mom….she already knows she couldn’t do it.

Your mom is fresh to the situation, doesn’t have a personal history, has a goal to only be there until she can go to work.
Only she knows if it is worth it to her to continue.
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PeggySue2020 17 hours ago
Thank you 97.

G mil needed help. Mom needed a place to stay. They agreed. Further, Cats husband will surely resent his wife’s mom leaving the arrangement to come live with him personally.

As it is, mom gets grandma to buy her food for free even as it’s different from what’s in grandmas diet. As to the cleaning, what do you expect grandma to do? Pitch in? And if moms using grandmas car, how big a burden is it to take her for her medical appointments?
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I honestly don’t know what to tell you other than let grand in law eat whatever she wants and when she has a health crisis, stop dropping everything and running to her.

The woman is an adult and if she wants to make bad choices, STOP trying to rescue her.
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CactusCat Nov 11, 2024
We just can't do that though. It seems wrong. And she has nobody other than my mom, her daughter, and us. I am moving an hour away soon and I am really worried about the family dynamics between grandmother-in-law, my mom, and grandmother-in-law's daughter. I am afraid that everyone will get burnt out and cause a huge argument. If we let her eat whatever she wants, she will eat crappy food, or starve herself, and dehydrate herself. She is very reliant on family. I am afraid of what would happen to her if she is left alone like that.
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What's grandma-in-law going to do when your mom gets her work permit? Who will be cooking and cleaning for her then?
And why did your mom have to move in with someone that isn't even family to her?
What needs to happen here other than your mom moving out, is that she needs to learn the word no.
NO I can't make you any meals today, and NO I can't take you to the doctor, you'll have to call an Uber, and NO I won't be cleaning your house anymore except for the room that I'm staying in, so you'll have to hire a cleaning person.
Sadly your mom didn't set the grounds rule before she agreed to move in with her, but it's not too late to set some now.
And after your mom learns the word no, I hope that she will find a new place to live where she's not being taken advantage of.
And quit running to the hospital every time grandma ends up there. No one should have to drop everything because of her bad choices. If no one ran there, perhaps grandma would realize that she needs to make better choices. And if she doesn't, well that is on her and she will have to lie in the bed that she made.
For some unknown reason it sounds like your grandma-in-law has you all wrapped around her little finger right where she wants you. So perhaps you ALL need to learn the word NO.
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CactusCat Nov 11, 2024
As for your first question, we are hoping her daughter will step up and become the primary caregiver, so cooking, cleaning, etc. Hopefully, at least. She has expressed this before but as to the full extent of what she is willing to do, I don't know. The daughter gets overwhelmed easily and her husband gets mad at her for being at her moms too much and spending less time with him. So she becomes a bit strange and distant. Other than my mom and her daughter, and obviously me and my husband, grandmother-in-law has nobody. Just a couple of old friends who have their own disabilities and mental issues. My mom moved in with my grandmother-in-law as I live in a small apartment and my relative had a bigger house with more rooms. The plan was that she would live there till I bought a house then she could stay with me. However, I bought a house an hour away and my mom is unsure about staying with me anymore since it's a bit rural and she's worried about job prospects there. My mom does want to move out eventually however rent is very high here. She lives with my relative rent free right now, as she is not working. I think she feels she has to do these extra caregiving duties to make up for it and because she's a lonely old woman. Grandmother-in-law really enjoys victimizing herself and making the situation worse than it is. And my mom feels bad for her.
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Cactus,
1- Mum needs to move elsewhere as soon as possible. Help her figure out where to live and how she can do it. Get community resources involved if you need to.
2-Your entire household should step back from monitoring Grandma's unhealthy habits. It's not Mum's or anyone's else's responsibility. I don't care how much you love her and want to protect her - stop it. You can still be loving without taking responsibility for her unhealthy choices.
3-Okay, so maybe bringing your Mum here wasn't the best idea, but it's not a capital crime. ;-) We all make decisions in life that we regret later. I sure have. You'll begin to feel better once you commit to doing everything possible to get your Mum settled comfortably elsewhere. Make this your very top priority. Worry about Grandma later.
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CactusCat Nov 12, 2024
I’m honestly appalled by the amount of hate and blame I have seen in this forum. I came here to seek support in a time when I feel my lowest and all I got were jabs and attacks. I am really saddened to see how people treat eachother on this forum and know I made a mistake seeking help. I have nobody to help me right now, so I just wanted some friendly advice. Some people have helped but I have also been attacked. Of course I am aware I did wrong and I do not deny it. However, I didn’t expect to be berated for my feelings in this situation. I appreciate your reply, probably one of the kindest responses I have had all day… I am just stunned by the lack of compassion here.
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Does your mother have relatives in the UK? The safest route is to have mom return to her country.

I'm going to be honest, I was born and raised here in the US, and the last eight years has been nothing but stress and discord. With the new/old administration coming in, the US doesn't seem like a safe place to be even for its own citizens. I'm concerned about the elderly and the cutting of funding for programs such as healthcare and food programs that keep food on the table for elderly and needy families. I retired in 2020 due to my job being outsourced. I'm working part time but it still isn't enough.

Please send you mom back home for her own sake. She does not deserve to be taken advantage of by a woman who refuses to follow doctor's orders and to care for her own health. So, many elderly diminish the quality of their lives by their own selfish needs and making others miserable. This eventually leads to a premature death in many of these cases. These types will run their family members ragged causing all types of chaos and uneccessary emergency room visits. When this happens again, get your mom away from the hospital and the both of you leave. Do not upset your work schedule or take time off to cater to this selfish old woman. Start making sound plans for you and your mom's future. I am not blaming you for bringing your mom here, but she deserves better.

This GMIL woman knows what to do about her own health, but it seems to me she creates these crisis to get the attention of her entire family because she feels neglected. It's like; I will hurt myself to hurt you. Look at what you've done to me sort of nonsense.

Come out of the "FOG" of fear, obligation and guilt. The dynamics of your in-laws has been in full progress even before you married into this brood of insanity. I would leave them to their he!! that they created.

You current family situation with your inlaws and your husband seems to be more of a problem than your mom at this point. He doesn't seem very supportive of you and your feelings.
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BurntCaregiver Nov 12, 2024
This is well said, Scampie. I hope the OP takes your good and sage advice.

Considering all that has went down in the last week here, if Israel wasn't in such a terrible mess my old man and I would head there right now.

I'll take a page from a great Lakota man I once knew and was very dear to me.

May we walk in beauty and may the Creator help us all through the next four years.
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I am sorry you don't feel your supported. Problem is, forums are usually upfront and honest. I just looked it up and it may be a while before Mom gets a green card to be able to work here. Also, teachers assistants where I live need a certain amount of schooling. The ones helping on the Highshool level need the most. They only work nine months out of the year. The months they are off they don't get paid unless they make arrangements to have their salary spread out. Meaning they can make 20k in nine months and find a Summer job or spread it out over twelve. Your Moms credentials from the UK may not be excepted here. My MIL was from London, never became a citizen but held a green card. Her passport was UK. She married a US serviceman during WWII. To get here she had to prove she had a place to stay and a job or proof someone would be supporting her. We have students from the UK that work the Boardwalks at our shore/beach towns.
They come here under work visas. Does not Mom have one of these? If so, she can find a job. Because Mom is an immigrant, she is not entitled to any of our benefits, like Medicaid for health insurace, maybe no Social services. Someone had to sponsor her and that person is responsible for her.

If none of grandmoms children stepped up before Mom, why do you feel they should now? Mom really needs to figure out what she is going to do. I am with Scampy, if she made it on her own in the UK, she may be smart to go back. Just looked it up for my Township, an aide averages $16 an hour about 33k. The rent here, in a complex, is $1400 a month. Out of that $16 an hr she has to pay taxes. Her own health insurance, not cheap. Did you and Mom do your homework before bringing her over.

Sorry if I too seem harsh but this is reality.
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CactusCat 21 hours ago
Thank you! My mum has worked in this field for over 10 years and holds valid college and university credentials, as well as solid references and work history. We are hoping she can find a good job in a school as she absolutely loves working with children and they bring her lots of joy. Watching her opening the door for trick or treaters this Halloween with so much excitement proved to me how much she missed interacting with kids. Yes I have heard people complaining about the teachers wages in the US however compared to what she was earning in the U.K, literally nothing, it’s more than she is used to. She also plans to continue doing private math and English tuition like she did back in the U.K. for extra money. She used to do that a lot more during the holidays when schools were closed, apart from the summer. However she is good at saving and we never really struggled even when I lived with her. We still went on vacations every summer and bought whatever we wanted so to say that she will not earn much is not true. In Washington state, wages are a lot higher too than the in the U.K. and taxes are a bit lower. She had to pay mountains in taxes back in London and made nearly nothing at the end of the day so she had to survive off tutoring.

I will not let her go back to the U.K. as she was struggling there as a single mother with no family. At least I will be here with her and my brother will be closer to her as he’s in Canada. After he graduates college, he plans to move closer too. We are waiting for her work permit and I sponsored her application to bring her here.
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Cat, no one here is trying to be mean to you just because they disagree with your blaming your husband’s grandmas daughter for not helping more. Gmil opened her house to your mother for free in exchange for free help, which likely your husband approved. Now that it’s not working out, mom has three choices: you take her in, you subsidize an apartment for her, or she goes home.
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