My grandma has insisted on staying in her house alone after grandpa died 7 years ago. He did whatever she said whenever she said...so she expects same from daughter and us 2 grandkids. We are the only family she has left. Everything was manageable for first 3 years or so. We would bring her groceries, bring her to bingo, etc. Though manageable, very difficult because of constant tantrums that nothing we ever did (according to her) was right. By the 4th year, not so manageable. She started having falls around the house. We offered her to come live with us. No way she said! Giant blowout tantrum with screaming and tears. Well she had a bad fall after that. Broke her femur. Couldn't be released home unless she had 24 hr care. I agreed to move in. She couldn't fix her own meals, couldn't change clothes, couldn't wipe herself after using the bathroom and couldn't bathe herself. Its now been 3 years, she still can't do any of those things but after more tantrums, I talked her into wiping herself (thank god). Well, I do not actually live in the house anymore but I and my mom and sister all visit 3 times a day. Every. Single. Day. We bring all meals and change/wash her, and empty her commode since she says she cannot make it to upstairs bathroom. So quite often she has threatened to leave our family out of her will. Any little thing sets her off to say that. You bring her lunch at 12:00 instead of 11:00, thats it! She says thru clenched teeth, "you're out of the will! I don't need you!" Well she has been threatening this for years. The day I moved in with her a nosy neighbor, who I already know does not like me or my family because of the way grandma portrayed us, she came up smirking and said "hey maybe she will be nice and leave you her house. Maybe." This neighbor lady and her husband by the way, have keys to her house. They were given by my grandpa but still....when grandma was in rehab for fall, my mom and I went to clean the house and smirky neighbor lady just casually let herself in with keys! I'm just wondering, after we are here taking care of her every need, can someone who doesn't even visit her just take the house my grandpa worked 2 jobs most of his life to afford???
Does she have a will? What does it say? POA? Talk to an attorney. If she’s not of sound mind you may be able to contest a change. If she did change it, the will stands as written. My worthless step siblings never took care of my stepfather once during his almost decade long illness yet inherited most of his considerable estate even thought my mother and he were married over 20 years( up to his death) since he never changed anything after their marriage. Stinks but that’s what happens when you don’t keep legal documents up to date.
If she has significant dementia get this medically documented yesterday.
If Mom is just a cranky old lady then let her spend her money on care or let the neighbors do it.
"Mom/Granmom we love you and want to take care of you, but you make us miserable every time we try to help you. What do you want us to do?"
Write down her reply and have her sign it. Then do it.
And find out who has a POA for her, because someone will need it soon.
She can't change her will daily. It would have to be in writing. You can't change a will...at will.
And let's face it, she gets a rise out of manipulating you.
Um, is it time for your family members to get back some of their independence, and move grandmother into AL? Is that a possibility for your family? In fact, if she HAS money USE it to get her into a really nice place, spend the money, and be done with it.
The stress is not worth it. And try to figure out a way to quit giving in to the manipulation. I know it's not easy and may be impossible, but it's unhealthy for everyone.
if a close family member lives in house too, they can show that they are dependent on living there
It can even be done over the phone, if she is too weak to travel, with a lawyer and two unrelated witnesses.
However, if a doctor has deemed her to have dementia, if she changes her will, it will not be deemed valid. A mentally incompetent person can not sign a legal document.
So, the advice to see an elder care attorney is a good one.
If granny has been like this all her life, you might want to research personality disorders. It sounds as if granny has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. If you look this up, you may have an "aha moment".
If granny does have NPD, and it sounds as if she does, she can and will leave people out of the will, just to be spiteful and controlling.
People with NPD are famous for doing this. A personality disorder will not cause a new will to be invalid. A person with a personality disorder is still deemed mentally competent by a court.
Also, you will see, when you research NPD, that you can not use reason or logic on these people. They are not like normal people. NPD runs on a spectrum and someone with severe NPD can be at the sociopathic or psychopathic end of the spectrum.
Therefore, if you attempt to use logic, they will use anything and everything you say against you. So see an elder law attorney before you attempt to speak with granny, about this issue.
Also, you need to see granny's will to find out whether or not she has already left all family members out. If she has, and she does not have dementia, then simply walk away.
Let the neighbors wipe her butt and take care of her.
Another very common trait among those with NPD is to treat strangers far better and kinder than they treat family. They even treat strangers who do nothing for them better than some family members.
Granny is being abusive to her daughter and grandchildren. Even the bible states that children owe nothing to abusive parents. Abusing one's own children is wrong.
Lastly as Davina mentioned, you can challenge the will, if the money is left to non-family members. It will likely be expensive. Still, if you can document your caregiving, it is likely the courts will side with family over friends for the inheritance.
I am sorry you have to go through this.
As soon as you try to bring it up, investigate or talk about the will and what's left to whom you are giving her power. Demented or not she uses the house that she knows you are all emotionally attached to try and manipulate you and the best way to combat that is not play her game. You need to release the feeling of entitlement first even if it is reasonable and fair but if you can simply say to her, "it's your's that is your right" "you leave it to whomever you choose" and walk away she no longer has leverage. You all can and should evaluate what you can and can't do, what you are able to do for free because you love your grandparents and feel a family responsibility and what lengths you are only able to go to if you receive some sort of financial compensation. Do not count on inheritance to be that compensation because even if GM was adamant everything go to your family and never threatened with it there is no guarantee she wont out last the assets. There may very well come a time when she needs more care than you all can provide, residential care and it's forced on her and she ends up needing Medicaid in which case while family members may be allowed to keep the house after her passing if it's ever sold they will get their money first so it may all be gone anyway.
Get your compensation legally and up front (you don't want to create problems applying for Medicaid either). She needs help no two ways about it, she can't or isn't doing anything for herself so she has choices and you can't allow one of those to be bullying or quilting you into doing it. You don't have to be angry or nasty about it just remove inheritance talk and thought from it and let her know what you as a family can do and what holes need to be filled. Blame it on the doctors requiring 24 hr care or whatever the need is and the options might be, hire outside caregivers, hire one of you for X hrs a week (the others you donate either way), get Meals on wheels, go to a residential facility and maybe you need to look at all these options to enable her to decide. Don't try to take the decision, the control away from her try participating with her and once you have some trust back between you get her some cognitive testing, see her primary and do a UTI test just in case (sounds like shes a prime candidate) and make sure the ducks are in order with POA and approval for sharing medical info and participating with each doctor and hospital if that isn't already in place. Use a soft but firm hand rather than a forceful or angry and hurt one with her, see if you can let her control attempts roll off your back or maybe help normalize them with treatment (UTI or medication for anxiety/cognitive issues). Now while you aren't in "crisis" is the time to map out a plan.
She tried to get me to move to Oklahoma with her when I was pregnant with her first Great Grandchild. Said she would look after me. HA. I said no, as I am Canadian and have free health care.
She conned people into providing whatever she wanted. One woman a Oklahoma City police officer was conned into bringing her to Canada during Expo 86. The woman told me Frances had promised her a small fortune in her Will. She had so many people, who I have to imagine thought they had found a Sugar Mama, at her beck and call, doing her bidding, that it was incredible.
Imagine all their surprise when she died and her money was divided 4 ways, three shares to her grandsons and one share to a nephew.
Now back to you. If I were in your shoes, I would not do another thing for Grandma without a care giver contract in place. She needs to pay you now for providing care, not after she is dead, assuming there is any money left.